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If Hillary wins, will this be bad or good?
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If she gets elected, she wants her husband to 'revitalize the economy'. Now I've heard in the past that Bill Clinton didn't do all that well on our economy, but this says he did a wonderful job. I was reading this and it said that under Clinton/Gore the economy grew for116 straight months. With a record like that, It might be a good thing, but everyone else might think differently. Anyway, here's the link that talks about the growth and below it, the link for the news story. So do you think it will be good or bad what Hillary wants her husband to do? Link for the Clinton/Gore economic growth: https://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html Link for the news article: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/16/hillary-says-shell-put-bill-in-charge-of-the-economy/?utm_source=DailyContInfoNewsletters&utm_medium=DailyContInfoNewsletters&utm_campaign=DailyNewsHeadlines&utm_content=10129 Link for the Clinton/Gore economic growth: https://clinton5.nara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-03.html Link for the news article: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/16/hillary-says-shell-put-bill-in-charge-of-the-economy/?utm_source=DailyContInfoNewsletters&utm_medium=DailyContInfoNewsletters&utm_campaign=DailyNewsHeadlines&utm_content=10129 Space layout by: mohammedroxx3 |
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Well before I begin this is my own personal opinion ? I think she would be bad for a several reasons. First of all, she has said that "Australia's gun mandatory buyback program is something to look into" That scares me because I believe law abiding citizens should have a right to own a gun to protect themselves. But even if you don't care about guns she also said this "I support limiting certain speech that is highly offensive to groups of people" Rather we like it or not in America under the 1st we have free speech. Doesn't make it right but its one of our cherished rights. So to me it seems like she is okay with restricting our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Speaking of free speech she has really been campaigning to the politically correct crowd. If she gets in we could lose our rights to display certain things, pray, wear logos etc cause it might offend somebody. That is highly unlikely but it could happen. I also think she would be bad for foreign policy. She said a month ago she would be okay with sending ground troops into Syria to fight Isis but as a last resort. We do not need another long bloody war. Its time we stop being the world police, stop getting involved in other countries affairs. In our past 60 years we have made a mess out of things. We have overthrown democracies installed brutal dictators, invaded countries, armed enemy groups, and destabilized countries. We have made blunders in Iran, Korea, Vietnam, Chile, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and add Syria to the mix. So yeah sending troops or arming rebels is just going to lead to the same thing. We arm rebels only for them to turn into terrorist. As for the economy she keeps taking about a big government. Government should help the people but you need a balance. Our national debt is up to 20 trillion. 16 trillion of that has been spent the last 15 years. Sooner or later we are going to keep spending and it all crashes down. Look at Venezuela is a good example. The past 20 years Venezuela had spent and spent creating a super big government. In 2016 that country has crashed, people can only work 2 days a week because the govt can't afford to pay workers. Also they can only use electricity for 4 hours a day cause the govt can afford to keep the power plants running. Clinton doesn't seem to have a clue on the disabled either. Clinton believes those of us with Autism are mentally off and needs to be cured. We don't want to be cured we want to be accepted. She also said she supports that if a person is on SSI and has somebody managing their account they should be considered mentally off and banned from buying a gun. This has ticked a lot of disabled rights groups off as it should be a case by case basis. So yeah if she gets in I think we will see an assault on the 1st and 2nd amendments. Will be more involved in countries affairs, probably get involved in another long bloody war, and an out of control debut. Just to be clear I'm not a Trump fan either. I would like to have a candidate that supports all parts of the Constitution including the first or second. I want a candidate that is going to get us out of being the world police, bring our troops home, and stop interfering in other countries affairs. Also a candidate that is going to take steps to reduce our national debt. In conclusion, Both Trump and Clinton are going to be bad I think she would be bad for a several reasons. First of all, she has said that "Australia's gun mandatory buyback program is something to look into" That scares me because I believe law abiding citizens should have a right to own a gun to protect themselves. But even if you don't care about guns she also said this "I support limiting certain speech that is highly offensive to groups of people" Rather we like it or not in America under the 1st we have free speech. Doesn't make it right but its one of our cherished rights. So to me it seems like she is okay with restricting our 1st and 2nd amendment rights. Speaking of free speech she has really been campaigning to the politically correct crowd. If she gets in we could lose our rights to display certain things, pray, wear logos etc cause it might offend somebody. That is highly unlikely but it could happen. I also think she would be bad for foreign policy. She said a month ago she would be okay with sending ground troops into Syria to fight Isis but as a last resort. We do not need another long bloody war. Its time we stop being the world police, stop getting involved in other countries affairs. In our past 60 years we have made a mess out of things. We have overthrown democracies installed brutal dictators, invaded countries, armed enemy groups, and destabilized countries. We have made blunders in Iran, Korea, Vietnam, Chile, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and add Syria to the mix. So yeah sending troops or arming rebels is just going to lead to the same thing. We arm rebels only for them to turn into terrorist. As for the economy she keeps taking about a big government. Government should help the people but you need a balance. Our national debt is up to 20 trillion. 16 trillion of that has been spent the last 15 years. Sooner or later we are going to keep spending and it all crashes down. Look at Venezuela is a good example. The past 20 years Venezuela had spent and spent creating a super big government. In 2016 that country has crashed, people can only work 2 days a week because the govt can't afford to pay workers. Also they can only use electricity for 4 hours a day cause the govt can afford to keep the power plants running. Clinton doesn't seem to have a clue on the disabled either. Clinton believes those of us with Autism are mentally off and needs to be cured. We don't want to be cured we want to be accepted. She also said she supports that if a person is on SSI and has somebody managing their account they should be considered mentally off and banned from buying a gun. This has ticked a lot of disabled rights groups off as it should be a case by case basis. So yeah if she gets in I think we will see an assault on the 1st and 2nd amendments. Will be more involved in countries affairs, probably get involved in another long bloody war, and an out of control debut. Just to be clear I'm not a Trump fan either. I would like to have a candidate that supports all parts of the Constitution including the first or second. I want a candidate that is going to get us out of being the world police, bring our troops home, and stop interfering in other countries affairs. Also a candidate that is going to take steps to reduce our national debt. In conclusion, Both Trump and Clinton are going to be bad -------------------- |
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According to the Tax Foundation, having Clinton in the White House would be pretty terrible for the economy: http://taxfoundation.org/blog/comparison-presidential-tax-plans-and-their-economic-effects It's not hard to see why: she would push for an even larger government, scaring away investors and private entrepreneurs to create wealth she eagerly wants to redistribute. Her hawkish past will very likely catch up and she will involve the US in more perpetual wars in order to satisfy her donors, both to her campaign and her foundation (which includes many Middle Eastern countries to which the US sold arms). She would also keep adopting terrible policies based on hot air (climate change, equal pay) or that are downright unconstitutional like gun control. Of course, I'm not implying Donald Trump is any better. But Clinton is definitely terrible. It's not hard to see why: she would push for an even larger government, scaring away investors and private entrepreneurs to create wealth she eagerly wants to redistribute. Her hawkish past will very likely catch up and she will involve the US in more perpetual wars in order to satisfy her donors, both to her campaign and her foundation (which includes many Middle Eastern countries to which the US sold arms). She would also keep adopting terrible policies based on hot air (climate change, equal pay) or that are downright unconstitutional like gun control. Of course, I'm not implying Donald Trump is any better. But Clinton is definitely terrible. -------------------- |
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BAD. She is a liar,she is a terrible person,and she could not do a lesser job without suffering a brain clot. What makes her think she could do the job? She could not. Bill Clinton got lucky,he was in the right place at the right time. I personally think Trump is the lesser of two evils,I certainly do not want him as President,but I would take him over Hillary. OldSchool777 ![]() If you wish to taste the ground,feel free to attack me. -Rurouni Kenshin |
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I can't say I know a whole lot about Bill Clinton due to the fact that I was not born until 1996. I also can't say I know a whole lot about economics. However, I think I can safely assume that it's at least a possibility that any number of factors aside from his administration could have been the cause for said economical growth, and the fact that the events coincide offer little evidence that it was directly related to his policies. That said, I think it's pretty crooked that she's using her candidacy to try to get him the equivalent of a third term, and I generally couldn't disagree more with a lot of what she proposes. tornadocam : I have to disagree with you on one little thing: the "blunder" that was the Korean conflict. I wholly agree that we shouldn't be involved with everything that goes on in the world. In fact, I've been compared to isolationists, though I don't think I take it to quite as much of an extreme. The following is a link to a long list of companies that are based in what is now The Republic of Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_South_Korea There are some big names here. Hyundai Group, LG Corp, Samsung Group and Kia Motors all stick out the most. While all of these companies were founded prior to the conflict, I seriously doubt they would be what they are now had we not prevented North Korea from being the entirety of Korea. As it is, the entire country of The DPRK is effectively the worlds largest labor camp and is being run by someone who executes his officials with anti-aircraft cannons and feeds family members to starving dogs alive.... As a matter of principle, we made an error, and I'm a man of principle if I'm anything. But I dare say that good things can occasionally come of mistakes. tornadocam : I have to disagree with you on one little thing: the "blunder" that was the Korean conflict. I wholly agree that we shouldn't be involved with everything that goes on in the world. In fact, I've been compared to isolationists, though I don't think I take it to quite as much of an extreme. The following is a link to a long list of companies that are based in what is now The Republic of Korea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_of_South_Korea There are some big names here. Hyundai Group, LG Corp, Samsung Group and Kia Motors all stick out the most. While all of these companies were founded prior to the conflict, I seriously doubt they would be what they are now had we not prevented North Korea from being the entirety of Korea. As it is, the entire country of The DPRK is effectively the worlds largest labor camp and is being run by someone who executes his officials with anti-aircraft cannons and feeds family members to starving dogs alive.... As a matter of principle, we made an error, and I'm a man of principle if I'm anything. But I dare say that good things can occasionally come of mistakes. -------------------- |
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It will be bad. She obviously relies on her advisers too much. You can see it when she talks, a lot of the time you can tell its something she had to practice...Shes fake! A mouth peace A spectacle! Not to mention the mood swing she may suffer once a month. I don't mean that as a joke, but as something that could legitimately be a concern. -------------------- |
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Bad, Hillary Clinton is a criminal who kept an Email Server in her personal residence and told everyone who knew to hush up. She didn't report hacking attempts to the State department, and while under investigation Now Bill Clinton has met and had a private conversation with Loretta Lynch who is responsible for taking and motoring forward with the indictment recommendation from the FBI. I disagree with most of her positions, and this is less than half, when she was head of the State department she pushed for fracking globally, she still wants "limited" fracking, and the people she appointed to help draft the party platform are pushing to get the TPP and fracking on it. She also advocates for a no fly zone over Syria which would put us in direct conflict with Russia, this would allow our military to shoot down Russian planes. She supports the Death Penalty, and wants to make all gun sale store owners liable for any and all crimes committed with guns, this means that even if the store owner followed every proper procedure they could still be sued. She is against a tax on carbon, and wants to improve the coal industry instead of immediately pushing to go green. Her plan for Education is basically to let you refinance your debt after a certain period, something most people can already do. She wants to "improve" Obamacare rather than making health care free, which will still drive up premiums, and make sure people like me can't go to the dentist to be checked for mouth cancer. Lastly she says she'll break up the big banks if they pose a systemic risk, well they already are. Now Bill Clinton has met and had a private conversation with Loretta Lynch who is responsible for taking and motoring forward with the indictment recommendation from the FBI. I disagree with most of her positions, and this is less than half, when she was head of the State department she pushed for fracking globally, she still wants "limited" fracking, and the people she appointed to help draft the party platform are pushing to get the TPP and fracking on it. She also advocates for a no fly zone over Syria which would put us in direct conflict with Russia, this would allow our military to shoot down Russian planes. She supports the Death Penalty, and wants to make all gun sale store owners liable for any and all crimes committed with guns, this means that even if the store owner followed every proper procedure they could still be sued. She is against a tax on carbon, and wants to improve the coal industry instead of immediately pushing to go green. Her plan for Education is basically to let you refinance your debt after a certain period, something most people can already do. She wants to "improve" Obamacare rather than making health care free, which will still drive up premiums, and make sure people like me can't go to the dentist to be checked for mouth cancer. Lastly she says she'll break up the big banks if they pose a systemic risk, well they already are. |
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There's no honestly no way to tell or predict the future at this point. I don't like her, but I don't Trump either. I honestly have no idea how things are going to turn it, but at this point, I think it doesn't matter who wins at this point because it's going to turn out bad. If I had to choose between Hillary, Trump, or Bernie, I would pick Bernie. I think he's better than both Hillary and Trump, but it's obvious that he's not going to make it.
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Bad. She's an awful candidate, and I feel like she's only going to be the nominee because gender card. Which is a stupid reason to be elected. I don't like Trump that much either, but I would definitely rather have him than Hilary any day. I don't like Trump that much either, but I would definitely rather have him than Hilary any day. -------------------- |
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I know Hilary is bad because of some research I did t do with her. But with the posts that people have said here. I truly now wonder who will lead the usa Hilary or trump? In both scenarios they are bad...and I really feel sorry for the usa at this point. Its going to be one of those two and when it happens that will be it. All I can hope is usa sees a better future for once of these people but I cannot say because it might not happen.... -------------------- |
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Not only would her presidency be terrible for the economy, but now we know it is going to be equally terrible for the country at large. She completely violated State Department policies with her emails but will probably never be charged. I do hope that if she gets elected she will face a hostile Congress so her agenda is at least slowed down -------------------- |
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I think that no matter who wins this election we're screwed either way. If Bernie pulled of some sort of miracle and somehow won the election, it seems like he would screw us over the least but I still see problems with some of his policies. Hillary specifically though, while I am definitely more inclined towards democrats I don't think she's good for us.
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Well, it kind of depends on your political ideals, but for the most part I don't see it as a good thing. I really wish Bernie had ended up with the nomination. By the next election he'll probably turn to dust lol. That being said, I honestly think Trump would be a worse choice, but not by much. They're both criminals, just in different ways. At least Hillary has a little political experience over a candidate who's never been seriously in politics his entire life. -------------------- |
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Well, it kind of depends on your political ideals, but for the most part I don't see it as a good thing. I really wish Bernie had ended up with the nomination. By the next election he'll probably turn to dust lol. That being said, I honestly think Trump would be a worse choice, but not by much. They're both criminals, just in different ways. At least Hillary has a little political experience over a candidate who's never been seriously in politics his entire life. -------------------- |
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Honestly this years election seems more like a popularity contest than based on politics. Do I think Hillary will do a good job at office? No. She has lied and manipulated the minds of many people. But I think Donald Trump would actually be a very valid candidate. The media indoctrinates people to get them to believe whatever the media wants. They try to make Trump seem like a racist D*** and I don't buy it. I also agree with his political views. On the other hand Hillary, if she is elected and see out her own views, she will start war, chaos, ETC. Trying to take gun rights away spells out civil war in my opinion. |
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Beastmode64 : elections, especially in the US, do seem to be about the person rather than their policies. That is why Barrack Obama got elected... And yes, the media seems to favor Hillary Clinton by downplaying her scandals compared to Trump's. However Donald is NOT a good candidate. Despite his defense of the Second Amendment, he is a fascist against whom we must be VERY careful. He used and abused eminent domain for personal gains, he wants to start a trade war with China and other countries (which would be a catastrophe for consumers) and he seems to despise free speech that contradicts him. -------------------- |
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Seriously, this entire election has shown a very problematic issue with not only the voter turnout and apparent fraud, but with so much blindness regarding the person's physical features and/or to party following, without even thinking of the person's actual policies separate from the party. It's turned into a huge war that, recently, has continued to skew the US as a whole. I decided to go and register as an independent voter to not put myself on a stupid side, even if I do agree with one party's overall thoughts more than the other. Trump is a problem as a candidate for numerous reasons, but he's popular because people are tired of all of the secrets that go on in closed doors, especially with bought-out candidates such as Hillary. While he is a wild card, I will 100 percent take Trump over Hillary. We don't know how he'll do, but we are damn near certain with Hillary's history that it's very hard to have a worse president than her. I really don't even want to talk about politics right now with how messed up everything is in this election. I can't believe that the final choice has led to this. Trump is a problem as a candidate for numerous reasons, but he's popular because people are tired of all of the secrets that go on in closed doors, especially with bought-out candidates such as Hillary. While he is a wild card, I will 100 percent take Trump over Hillary. We don't know how he'll do, but we are damn near certain with Hillary's history that it's very hard to have a worse president than her. I really don't even want to talk about politics right now with how messed up everything is in this election. I can't believe that the final choice has led to this. ____________________ |
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Let me put it this way: At least it's better than trump. The US has doomed its own future with these 2 clowns the potential presidents, but at least Hillary isn't as blatantly dumb as trump. Although another argument is that trump isn't 100% serious and is just a master at manipulating people but that's a whole other story. Too bad Bernie isn't gonna get it, especially after his tweet about Palestine. At least it's better than trump. The US has doomed its own future with these 2 clowns the potential presidents, but at least Hillary isn't as blatantly dumb as trump. Although another argument is that trump isn't 100% serious and is just a master at manipulating people but that's a whole other story. Too bad Bernie isn't gonna get it, especially after his tweet about Palestine. -------------------- |
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