So as ISIS has become a more and more prominent threat we look to the news to see if the people higher up in our country's leadership have thought of or found a solution to end their radicalism. However, we don't see that on TV. We see theories, and we see speeches, but no action. Obama has made a speech about tolerance while Christians overseas are not getting tolerance. What do you think it will take for a group as big, as influential, as deadly and as solicited as ISIS?

Create a sovereign Kurdistan, and stop all aid to Syria. ISIS won't last. They will be pushed out of Iraq entirely, and fizzle out with no munitions in Syria. They'll be goners.

You know, I heard a phrase a bit ago which pretty much answers this.
“With guns you can kill terrorists, with education you can kill terrorism.”
I'm starting to think the same goes for ISIS.

But how do you think we could stop ISIS permanently, it's not like we can make them sign a paper saying they'll change their beliefs
maguc :
Txgangsta :

BluemageKyle :

There is no cure to the selfishness of man. Even rational discussion can only be effective if another's selfishness has not overtaken his capacity to hear. ISIS will not hear you. They reject reason as a good. You must approach them where they are, in darkness, and use that darkness against them. Honesty will do no good; they are not in a position to do anything with honesty other than kill it. Their minds are filled with nothing but illusion and violence. We must use illusion or violence to attack their mind in order to change it. Only these two things can affect their mind. If we want to change their minds, these are the tactics we must use.

tornadocam : That's true, if the United States just left the Middle East alone and let them deal with problems, we wouldn't of been in this mess. We been having problems with the Middle East since World War II. If it wasn't for Hitler being a psychopath, the Jewish people wouldn't flee to that area we known as Israel today, the Palestine got really angry because the Jewish people stole their land, and with the UN supporting Israel, they seen a lot more of the land really rich with oil and starting to do some trade with the rest of the Middle East until that started to turn sour especially in the 1972 Summer Olympics and on, relationship between the United States and the Middle East really started to decelerate. Since then, the United States wants to get rid of these terrorists from the planet but when they try, they get worse and worse, like for an example, the 1993 World Trade Bombings, and September 11th, 2001. With those events, the United States wants to stop terrorism, but like I said, if they try, it gets worse.

Like with the war in Syria, the reason why that the United States supported the rebels is because the Syrian's leader was turning into a tyrant dictator, and the world doesn't need another dictator. So that is why the US supported those rebels which immediately turned on the US and formed their own terror groups to what we all known as ISIS today because they think the US and other UN countries wants them to "drop their religion"

This got me worried about the US Presidential Election next year because I do want to go with Trump, but the way he's been going recently, it maybe like pouring gasoline on a fire, means making ISIS worse than it is today, like Paris and San Bernardino might just be the beginning of problems in the future.

How I see it, ISIS is going to get worse and worse before it gets better.

It looks like the U.S. Has dug themselves too many holes they can't get out of.
tornadocam :
IgorBird122 :

tornadocam : I'm curious as to why you picked the 1950s.  The United States has been intervening in conflicts since the 1700s.  See "Monroe Doctrine" and "Shores of Tripoli."

Also, your profile says you're 30 so you remember what kind of ruler Saddam Hussein was.  Tell me you think we should have just left him there to do what he was doing, like slaughtering all the people that he didn't agree with.

The whole point is nature abhors a vacuum.  One leader or group goes away and another rises.  ISIS can be wiped out and some other religious extremists shows up.

There's no end until you wipe out all religions.

Ghostbear1111 :

I picked the 50's because after WW II that is when a lot of the Middle Eastern countries got independence or the right to form their own nations. You see before WWI most of the Middle East was under the Ottoman Empire. After WWI Britain technically colonized the region under mandates until WWII.  The 50's was mostly known as de-colonization. The Middle East countries like Iran elected a democracy some went to Sharia Law.

Yes I remember how brutal Saddam was. I did not support him but I did not feel like we should have gone to war with him for several reasons. First we never really proved he was building nukes which was the main reason we went in. Second, we had no proof he worked with the Taliban & Al Quada on 9/11. Third, I opposed the war in Iraq because I thought it would stretch our troops to thin. In addition, it would allow Bin-Laden to escape. What happened no nukes were found, no proof of Iraq supporting the Taliban. But it did allow the Taliban to escape into Pakistan.


Saddam was an evil man but in my opinion no we have something worse then Hussein and that is Isis. Our actions also caused Iraq to plunge into a civil war.  

Not all religion is bad. I'm a Christian and I try to do good, but they are some bad apples in the bunch.  You can find that in every religion. There has also been non religious leaders that were brutal. Hitler was in the occult as he worshiped the stars and look at his evil. Stalin is another example. They are just bad people out there driven by hate, greed, and power hungry. You are right get rid of one terrorist group another one shows up. 

It is all about money.  It does not matter who or what you call "terrorism."  As long as there is money to be made from people willing to die for something they feel is real, there will always be wars and hatred among us.  I don't know what isis stands for, but I also don't know what america stands for anymore since we have been providing arms to the opposing factions for as long as I can remember, and killing our own in ridiculous bombings and shootings just to have more control over us.  It is getting a little too bad here, and everywhere for that matter.  You stop isis and another pops up.  You bomb them into extinction and another pops up.  Eventually we all die in a horrible "touch of the button" nuclear war, and for what?  Religion and the color of our skin? 

One thing that can help against ISIS (an terrorism in general) would be to stop droning their countries and stop the vicious circle of perpetual war.

Also, if naysayers would stop opposing pretty much any development in oil production in the US (including exports) then the US would become the oil "superpower" of the world, stopping the funding on countries like Saudi Arabia.

Having boots on the ground is jsut going to make things worse. Besides there is no guarantee that the "allies" against ISIS will not backstab us *cough, cough* Al-Qaeda *cough, cough*

I think that it takes more than just the United States to stop ISIS. I think all nations should join and somehow limited the resources that ISIS receives including food and water. Heck, leave them to rot if all possible. I do not know why be so politically correct when it comes to getting rid of that pest. I just think a harsh ambush needs to take place and whip out any and everyone involved in any way shape or form. That's one thing I like about Russia in this predicament- they tend to be more hands on quicker than the United States does. I think we as a country are way to focus on being the "peace maker" and the "rational country" too much and allow too much time to elapse before taking any sort of action which gives ISIS more time to make their way to the news, media, and reach out to more people to join. I do not think we should even allow their messages to touch our media in any way but, then again I am starting to think that there is a plot in all and maybe the government wants to scare us and show us how crazy terrorism is so they can have more grounds to pass more unconstitutional laws to have more control as a government "of the people to the people." I just think everyone has their own agenda.

I think I agree with jlove. We need more support from other nations, or rather, they need to cut off support to ISIS. 
Stopping their supply trains will stop ISIS.
If they have no munitions or supplies, they won't have a means to fight with.

ISIS,Al-Queda,Jihad,and others like them are just a bunch of brainwashed fools that honestly believe what they are doing is right and when they die they get a ton of virgins in heaven. Here is my question. How are you going to do anything with them if you are dead? But if you want to stop them,international support is needed,destroy any source of income they possess like opium and oil,educate people to see that these people are going to die in a freaking sandbox or as another statistic,outright ban all religion in that region,(let's face it,they have been killing each other for 5,000 years because of what a different invisible being tells them and the idiots that manipulate things to suit them).

Other ways to stop them is to develop a fuel source that can be used just like oil. Make it cheap,can use existing infrastructure,and make sure no one else can produce it except authorized parties.

It will take the cooperation with other nations to stamp these people out. Both with education efforts for the actual people in these troubled countries, as well with our finest weapons to stamp out these mongrels before they laugh about killing any more innocent people for the sake of their petty war on the very idea of Western Civilization. I think working with nations against them, such as Jordan and Russia, would be one of the best things we can do.

Vanelan : Do not forget oil. Some OPEC countries are financing ISIS, and ISIS also control some oil supplies. Lifting the ban on U.S. oil exports would greatly damage them.

Oldschool777 : be careful when wishing for "alternative" sources of energy. Governments have wasted billions (trillions?) in solar and wind, both of which can only (seemingly) function with public subsidies. An alternative will one day come up, no doubt, but I highly doubt it will be thanks to government.

A user of this : No doubt that many abhor ideas like free speech and women's rights. However that hatred was more or less fringe before the massive Western intervention in the region after World War I and the huge support for local dictators that catered to Western interests.

I know it will not be invented by the government or anything affiliated with it. Solar and wind right now are only decent with the right weather conditions and are not all that effective or efficient. I disagree on lifting oil bans from those counties,they are there to control them. If we lift the bans,then we have no leverage and another enemy to fight. And if anything people in the US that have ties to oil would try to block the technology,discredit it,or kill the inventor. Just like Tucker,the inventor of the Tuckermobile. This was a car that had a huge engine,but still got 30MPG.

I almost feel sorry for the next President. He has to deal with the cleanup that Obama failed to do. I would almost suggest dropping a neutron bomb on the area,but that might be a little much.

janus : Developing other fuel sources for electricity would cut down on oil imports as well. The government trying to develop anything is an exercise in futility. As someone that works in a government job, I see how they do things. They aren't exactly getting the best value for their dollar....

Oldschool777 : If I understand the ban well, it bars the U.S. from either exporting crude or reffined oil AT ALL. It was voted in the 1970s to "counter" the oil shock from 1971 (72?) and is not completely obsolete. The U.S. has the capability to become the largest oil producer AND exporter, thereby "dethroning" OPEC countries, many of which finance ISIS.

Vanelan : Indeed. Not five years ago the "rebels" from ISIS were our allies to help depose the "evil" Assad.