the new gospal has been found, but many people i have talked to have said it to be lies... but it makes sence the gospal follows everything right... y does the christian world not like this new book

You talkn bout the book of Judas right?
Its been carbon dated to exactly the same time period the rest of the bible was written, which is funny
I choose not to read or belive it because of this bible verse.

Revelation 18-19 (NIV)
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

But if it was ment to be in there, dont you think God would have made it so...

What you (and everyone else on the planet) fails to remember, is that Revelations was a book in and of itself, before it was "Canonized" into the bible. That warning is ONLY about Revelations, and not about the rest of the bible.

And the MidAevil church ADDED to Revelations when they Canonized it with the rest of the bible, didn't they?

And you saw what happened to them.

Anyhow, you would not accept God if he was staring you in the face and TELLING you he was God, would you? Because you don't allow yourself to accept anything new, because of what a stupid no-longer-relevant paragraph in an important book says? You dare disown God?

bb85: maybe it was always in there... and maybe whoever lost judas's book didn't make it to the "holy city"

The bible wasn't made in 33 ad. The bible was made during a 600 year long process, starting in 800 ad. OVER 700 YEARS after Jesus was to have lived. You can read all about it here.

I'm going to go read this supposed Judas Book. Wonder why "the church" left it out? They certainly aren't my church. Are they yours?

You know Lowell, you seem to have some fairly radical views of the bible. What has made you be... no offence, but like an anti-christ?
If what your saying is tru, and I doubt it alot. Then dosnt that make the whole bible false... Dosnt that mean that there would be basicly no way to salvation... And dont you think God wouldnt have let that happen???

Neo : ~2000 yrs ago. Oh man, i knew i left it around here somewhere

the thing is if we didn't have judas, and if he didn't betray jesus, there would be no crucifiction or no saviour, so i think people have some thinking to do

Originally posted by BigBob85

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You know Lowell, you seem to have some fairly radical views of the bible. What has made you be... no offence, but like an anti-christ?
If what your saying is tru, and I doubt it alot. Then dosnt that make the whole bible false... Dosnt that mean that there would be basicly no way to salvation... And dont you think God wouldnt have let that happen???

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No offence taken. I am not like an Anti-christ, but more like one with a sharp tongue. The pawns of Satan and the pawns of God bear similar markings; Both have an extensive knowledge of the playing field. Watch Constantine, and you'll see that such is true.

The whole bible is not false. If it was, it would be simply unbelievable. But it is somehow believable, because somehow a third of the world believes in it (many without even reading it, perhaps that's "hundredth monkey syndrome"). Granted, however, there are sparks of truth that leak through the miscommunication instilled through the centuries, and it takes a divining eye and an open mind to spot the true story. It's a lot like playing the telephone game.

There is a way to Salvation. That way is to keep an open mind, and... (not that I won't regret saying this here but...) not necessarily to LOVE your neighbor, but just to not hate your neighbor, to respect them. Bear a grudge against no living being. Bear prejudice towards no person, place, or thing. (Again, that seems sort of like saying "keep an open mind" in three different ways, doesn't it?) If you bear no grudge, you do not kill (C6), lie (C4) or incriminate (C9). If you respect others, you do not steal (C8) or adulterize (C7), and you naturally respect your family (C5). If you bear no prejudice, then you won't covet (C10), idolize (C2), or believe in unwholesome deities (C1). And as long as you stay lazy like me, then it's easy to not work on the sabbath (C4). (Heck, I only work on one day of the week!)

What sabbath, you ask? Abstaining from hard labour on a single day out of every week. Is that TOO GOOD for some people you know? Are they greater than GOD that they have to work, when God rests?

I prefer taking my Shabbat on Wednesday, as it's seriously open to interpretation (If the entire species took their Shabbat on one day, Earth would explode.) Though typically, the Shabbat begins before sundown Friday night and ends at after nightfall Saturday night. What about you?

I always thought sabbath was sunday. Cos it was on the 7th day that God rested... Meaning he started work on a monday

I was gona say, they did scientific tests into the day of sabbath, n found it 2 be saturday, as u said.

I will not be a member of any church which does not keep its doors open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. If that means I will not be a member of ANY church, then sign me up for "Where two or more are gathered in my name, there so am I"

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" Then he saw also that it matters little what profession, whether of religion or irreligion, a man may make, provided only he follows it out with charitable inconsistency, and without insisting on it to the bitter end. It is in the uncompromisingness with which dogma is held and not in the dogma or want of dogma that the danger lies. " - Samuel Butler , The Way of All Flesh

I dont get ur first sentence...
explain?

Search a bible search engine for the word 'time' or the phrase 'keepers of time'. You will note that people who operate by calendars and clocks are considered evil, and must assuredly be put to death. The commandment about keeping the sabbath holy is simply asking that you rest for one seventh of your life (and most people actually sleep for one fourth of every day), but... If a church observes Time, I will not observe that church.

I will open my own Church. It will likely be the best one that exists.
(Hey, what's wrong with opening a church? Christians do it!)

I think thats sort of a radical movement, to not follow a church, just because they observe time.

Do you mean, like, they have clocks.. And say church starts at 10:30am on Sunday, and stuff?

Basically. That's what I got out of the bible when I read it, so I made it my faith not to follow any church today, since, to the best of my knowledge, the majority are not open all day, every day. If Denny's can be open, serving customers, in the middle of the night, why can't God? Does God stop existing at 6pm on Sunday?

Didn't think so.

Catholic churches are usually open 24/7. Dont think theres always someone there. But there always open.
My church has got big sign out the front, with phone numbers to the pastors and stuff of the church. And i dont think any of them would mind being woken up in the middle of the night. So it is technicly open 24/7...