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Most religions are against drinking and don't want anyone touching alcohol.  Some religions say, "Go ahead."

I'm curious.  For those who don't believe in it and are against it, why?

Most religions are against drinking and don't want anyone touching alcohol.  Some religions say, "Go ahead."

I'm curious.  For those who don't believe in it and are against it, why?

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Sorry in advance for this spammy post, but I feel as if the god of beer is needed to reply to this.
Beer is god.
People against it, haven't had it.
End of story.
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Thank you all for your time, and enjoy beer to it's fullest.
Sorry in advance for this spammy post, but I feel as if the god of beer is needed to reply to this.
Beer is god.
People against it, haven't had it.
End of story.
#BEERIZGOD
Thank you all for your time, and enjoy beer to it's fullest.
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Most religions forbid things that reduce your mental capacity. In islam they tried to ban coffee too, but most people opposed that. Interestingly though, weed is used socially by a lot of Muslims.
Most religions forbid things that reduce your mental capacity. In islam they tried to ban coffee too, but most people opposed that. Interestingly though, weed is used socially by a lot of Muslims.
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In Christian context, it has nothing to do with the drinking or the drink itself, but more of being drunk or intoxicated. It's the part where you just let yourself go and dive in drunkenness that your sound judgment that God has given you is blinded by the affects of overly induced substances. Much of the Wisdom books and teachings spoke against the state of drunkenness and how it leads to foolishness.

The other problem with it is that it is basically your idol when you desire to be drunk or is drunk. That becomes putting a "god" to be the main desire in one's life, when God, who is the Creator of all things, who's good and just, and guides sound judgments, is blinded and placed lesser than the chief direction of your life.
In Christian context, it has nothing to do with the drinking or the drink itself, but more of being drunk or intoxicated. It's the part where you just let yourself go and dive in drunkenness that your sound judgment that God has given you is blinded by the affects of overly induced substances. Much of the Wisdom books and teachings spoke against the state of drunkenness and how it leads to foolishness.

The other problem with it is that it is basically your idol when you desire to be drunk or is drunk. That becomes putting a "god" to be the main desire in one's life, when God, who is the Creator of all things, who's good and just, and guides sound judgments, is blinded and placed lesser than the chief direction of your life.
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play beat me to it.  LOL

I think most people have the impression that Christians aren't supposed to drink alcohol at all, but the truth is that we are not to get
drunk. I myself won't drink though, simply as a matter of personal opinion.  I've never been able to stand the way alcohol smells, much less the way it tastes. I've even tried very weak alcohol, but the taste is just about the nastiest thing I've ever experienced, and I just can't handle it. Even a hint of it sets me off.
play beat me to it.  LOL

I think most people have the impression that Christians aren't supposed to drink alcohol at all, but the truth is that we are not to get
drunk. I myself won't drink though, simply as a matter of personal opinion.  I've never been able to stand the way alcohol smells, much less the way it tastes. I've even tried very weak alcohol, but the taste is just about the nastiest thing I've ever experienced, and I just can't handle it. Even a hint of it sets me off.
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Well....as big sis said for her part same with dad. I will say my own....I'm afraid to drink in honesty. I am a Christian, I am not against it, but if my life was any different, I still wouldn't drink it. Because it causes health damage. People can drink it occasionally and stuff. That's cool, but sadly there are some others who do drink it every day.....it may be their problem, but I am an ill person, and I don't want to get more sick as it is by drinking.....I know what it does to your body and more, labu.
Well....as big sis said for her part same with dad. I will say my own....I'm afraid to drink in honesty. I am a Christian, I am not against it, but if my life was any different, I still wouldn't drink it. Because it causes health damage. People can drink it occasionally and stuff. That's cool, but sadly there are some others who do drink it every day.....it may be their problem, but I am an ill person, and I don't want to get more sick as it is by drinking.....I know what it does to your body and more, labu.
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In my religion, we are forbidden from drinking any alcoholic beverages at all. Studies have shown benefits to drinking red wine, for example. So why would we ban something that might do some good?

I believe it is because of the possibility of losing control. We might say "it's just one drink", but that drink can quickly turn into another, and therefore, we lose control of one of our greatest gifts, the ability to choose.

I have found that I am prone to addictions, especially addiction to chocolate chip cookies. Therefore, I will not even take one sip of an alcoholic beverage.
In my religion, we are forbidden from drinking any alcoholic beverages at all. Studies have shown benefits to drinking red wine, for example. So why would we ban something that might do some good?

I believe it is because of the possibility of losing control. We might say "it's just one drink", but that drink can quickly turn into another, and therefore, we lose control of one of our greatest gifts, the ability to choose.

I have found that I am prone to addictions, especially addiction to chocolate chip cookies. Therefore, I will not even take one sip of an alcoholic beverage.
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The problem isn't really alcohol its how much you consume that is the problem. It was stated in the Bible that Jesus drank wine, but he didn't get drunk. Really most things in moderation are okay, but the probably we as humans have a seriously hard time keeping anything in moderation.
The problem isn't really alcohol its how much you consume that is the problem. It was stated in the Bible that Jesus drank wine, but he didn't get drunk. Really most things in moderation are okay, but the probably we as humans have a seriously hard time keeping anything in moderation.
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To agree with a couple other posts here, Christianity has nothing against drinking alcohol. In fact, we recognize it can even be helpful at times (Paul told Timothy to drink some wine for health benefits). However, as many have said, getting drunk (which reduces your mental capacity and ability to understand your reduced mental capacity) is against our beliefs.

One of the main reasons that Christians choose to avoid alcohol is personal conviction. Some people, before coming to belief in Christ, lead lives of alcoholism and such. Often, these people choose to avoid alcohol with the intent of avoiding falling back into alcoholism. Sadly, some churches (we have one a couple mins from our house) take that too far, and deny their members the option of alcohol at all. In fact, as with the church near our house, a few even go so far as to disallow members from working at any business that sells alcohol. I believe that is not a Biblical concept, which is partly why my family has chosen not to go there regularly.

As with anything, some people tend to take it too far. Sometimes Christians impress their personal convictions on others, which I don't support at all. I believe Biblical laws are important to follow, but personal convictions are impressed on you and not necessarily others.

I also want to mention that it's good to help encourage others in their personal convictions. If someone believes that it's wrong for them to drink alcohol, then the considerate thing to do would be to avoid drinking alcohol around them. That doesn't just apply to alcohol though, it's good to be considerate of personal convictions (as long as they don't out-rightly contradict the Bible).
To agree with a couple other posts here, Christianity has nothing against drinking alcohol. In fact, we recognize it can even be helpful at times (Paul told Timothy to drink some wine for health benefits). However, as many have said, getting drunk (which reduces your mental capacity and ability to understand your reduced mental capacity) is against our beliefs.

One of the main reasons that Christians choose to avoid alcohol is personal conviction. Some people, before coming to belief in Christ, lead lives of alcoholism and such. Often, these people choose to avoid alcohol with the intent of avoiding falling back into alcoholism. Sadly, some churches (we have one a couple mins from our house) take that too far, and deny their members the option of alcohol at all. In fact, as with the church near our house, a few even go so far as to disallow members from working at any business that sells alcohol. I believe that is not a Biblical concept, which is partly why my family has chosen not to go there regularly.

As with anything, some people tend to take it too far. Sometimes Christians impress their personal convictions on others, which I don't support at all. I believe Biblical laws are important to follow, but personal convictions are impressed on you and not necessarily others.

I also want to mention that it's good to help encourage others in their personal convictions. If someone believes that it's wrong for them to drink alcohol, then the considerate thing to do would be to avoid drinking alcohol around them. That doesn't just apply to alcohol though, it's good to be considerate of personal convictions (as long as they don't out-rightly contradict the Bible).
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Alcohol itself isn't the problem, though people have long since forgotten why they are adverse to it. I think, and feel free to disagree, that it is the behavior of having too much alcohol; acting in a manner unfit for a follower of Christ. In Biblical times, the water was often unsafe to drink (sheep piss, anyone?) and that is why wine was used more often then. Now, wine is more for commemorating events than it was then. The real fear is that some denominations believe that you can lose your salvation by doing the wrong thing. So, removing the temptation will remove one more way to lose your salvation. The way that I have been taught, however, is that there is no way to lose your salvation once you have it. You can remove yourself from the belief, but the salvation factor is still there. You either have it, or you don't because you've never heard it. Am I making any sense?
In any case, I personally drink wine myself occasionally!
Alcohol itself isn't the problem, though people have long since forgotten why they are adverse to it. I think, and feel free to disagree, that it is the behavior of having too much alcohol; acting in a manner unfit for a follower of Christ. In Biblical times, the water was often unsafe to drink (sheep piss, anyone?) and that is why wine was used more often then. Now, wine is more for commemorating events than it was then. The real fear is that some denominations believe that you can lose your salvation by doing the wrong thing. So, removing the temptation will remove one more way to lose your salvation. The way that I have been taught, however, is that there is no way to lose your salvation once you have it. You can remove yourself from the belief, but the salvation factor is still there. You either have it, or you don't because you've never heard it. Am I making any sense?
In any case, I personally drink wine myself occasionally!
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when you have a bad feeling. and alcohol is solution 77 % but it cured germs
when you have a bad feeling. and alcohol is solution 77 % but it cured germs
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I'm not really familiar with any religions that specifically forbid any alcohol consumption. Not saying there aren't (a few here have said theirs does), but I never personally met anyone in one. In the Bible, Jesus drank wine. Heck, there is a story where he turns water into wine. But alcohol is a universal killer to organic cells. When you want to disinfect, alcohol is often the substance of choice. You are technically poisoning yourself when you consume it. I think willingly poisoning yourself isn't looked at in great light religiously speaking (particularly if you are doing it irresponsibly).
I'm not really familiar with any religions that specifically forbid any alcohol consumption. Not saying there aren't (a few here have said theirs does), but I never personally met anyone in one. In the Bible, Jesus drank wine. Heck, there is a story where he turns water into wine. But alcohol is a universal killer to organic cells. When you want to disinfect, alcohol is often the substance of choice. You are technically poisoning yourself when you consume it. I think willingly poisoning yourself isn't looked at in great light religiously speaking (particularly if you are doing it irresponsibly).
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rcarter2 :
"I think willingly poisoning yourself isn't looked at in great light religiously speaking"
Haha... what a great way of putting this!  For the same reason, I am against substance use like cigarette smoking.

Luckily for me, I can't even stand the smell of alcohol... much less the taste.  (I tried a beer ONCE. ONCE.  It was so foul that I tried watering it down with some Vault.  Worst decision ever.)

I don't know why, but it's completely repulsive to me.  One of the worst smells and tastes I've ever experienced.
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"I think willingly poisoning yourself isn't looked at in great light religiously speaking"
Haha... what a great way of putting this!  For the same reason, I am against substance use like cigarette smoking.

Luckily for me, I can't even stand the smell of alcohol... much less the taste.  (I tried a beer ONCE. ONCE.  It was so foul that I tried watering it down with some Vault.  Worst decision ever.)

I don't know why, but it's completely repulsive to me.  One of the worst smells and tastes I've ever experienced.
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Singelli : I am very picky about alcoholic drinks. I hate beer. But it isn't the alcohol that is the foul taste to me. Every beer I have tried tasted like I was just drinking yeast. The yeast is all I taste. I like wine, but it has to be sweet. I don't like dry wine at all. Just tastes like alcohol with a flowery aroma. But there are sweet merlot that I love. Mixed and/or frozen drinks with tequilla, I usually like. I taste the tequilla, but it doesn't give me that unpleasant feeling in my nose and throat like other things do. I do like some rum and root beer (coke is good too).
Singelli : I am very picky about alcoholic drinks. I hate beer. But it isn't the alcohol that is the foul taste to me. Every beer I have tried tasted like I was just drinking yeast. The yeast is all I taste. I like wine, but it has to be sweet. I don't like dry wine at all. Just tastes like alcohol with a flowery aroma. But there are sweet merlot that I love. Mixed and/or frozen drinks with tequilla, I usually like. I taste the tequilla, but it doesn't give me that unpleasant feeling in my nose and throat like other things do. I do like some rum and root beer (coke is good too).
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rcarter2 :  I've always wondered if maybe I had never smelled / tasted the right stuff, because I always wondered how sooooo many people can be okay with alcohol. I mean, I tried a wine once as well, and it was the exact same smell / flavor that I couldn't stand with the beer. lol  Also, my husband once got a goat cheese that had wine in it, and although he said the flavor was very week, the alcohol flavor was very strong to my tastebuds and I couldn't eat the cheese.
rcarter2 :  I've always wondered if maybe I had never smelled / tasted the right stuff, because I always wondered how sooooo many people can be okay with alcohol. I mean, I tried a wine once as well, and it was the exact same smell / flavor that I couldn't stand with the beer. lol  Also, my husband once got a goat cheese that had wine in it, and although he said the flavor was very week, the alcohol flavor was very strong to my tastebuds and I couldn't eat the cheese.
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The worst thing about alcohol is that is a toxin. Medically Speaking it is poison. If you were to drink pure alcohol you would die. 

The Bible tells us we shouldn't, "Give ourselves unto wine." (Roughly.) Therefore I wouldn't drink any. Not to mention that is smells terrible, and O can't imagine that the taste would be much better.
The worst thing about alcohol is that is a toxin. Medically Speaking it is poison. If you were to drink pure alcohol you would die. 

The Bible tells us we shouldn't, "Give ourselves unto wine." (Roughly.) Therefore I wouldn't drink any. Not to mention that is smells terrible, and O can't imagine that the taste would be much better.
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Singelli : In general, the taste of the actual alcohol is not pleasant to anyone. It is something that they deal with because they associate the bad taste with enjoyment. Just like smoking. Though people claim to when they are addicted, nobody really LIKES the taste of cigarettes. But their brains have associated that bad taste with the positive feeling they get when fulfilling the addiction.
For people like me, you just need to find what ones you are less sensitive to. For the wine that you tried, was it red wine? Those are dry, and have that overwhelming alcohol flavor. That kind that just fills your throat and sinuses when you swallow it. I would suggest sweet white wines with a specific fruit taste. For example, we get Moscato White Wines fairly often. Inexpensive, sweet, and pretty smooth. Some people (like my wife) are really sensitive to the taste of tequilla and not to the alcohol in things like hard lemonade. I, on the other hand, taste the tequilla, but don't 'feel' it in my throat and sinuses when I drink it. Maybe you could do what my wife does. Get a fruity frozen sangria and ask that they go light with the tequilla. That way if you don't really like it, the alcohol taste should be subtle enough to at least be drinkable so it isn't wasted.
Singelli : In general, the taste of the actual alcohol is not pleasant to anyone. It is something that they deal with because they associate the bad taste with enjoyment. Just like smoking. Though people claim to when they are addicted, nobody really LIKES the taste of cigarettes. But their brains have associated that bad taste with the positive feeling they get when fulfilling the addiction.
For people like me, you just need to find what ones you are less sensitive to. For the wine that you tried, was it red wine? Those are dry, and have that overwhelming alcohol flavor. That kind that just fills your throat and sinuses when you swallow it. I would suggest sweet white wines with a specific fruit taste. For example, we get Moscato White Wines fairly often. Inexpensive, sweet, and pretty smooth. Some people (like my wife) are really sensitive to the taste of tequilla and not to the alcohol in things like hard lemonade. I, on the other hand, taste the tequilla, but don't 'feel' it in my throat and sinuses when I drink it. Maybe you could do what my wife does. Get a fruity frozen sangria and ask that they go light with the tequilla. That way if you don't really like it, the alcohol taste should be subtle enough to at least be drinkable so it isn't wasted.
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What is bad about alcohol is 1.You get drunk from it and it might cause you to do things that will get you in trouble.... and 2. When you keep drinking and drinking alcohol daily, your heart goes from being healthy to being bad.
What is bad about alcohol is 1.You get drunk from it and it might cause you to do things that will get you in trouble.... and 2. When you keep drinking and drinking alcohol daily, your heart goes from being healthy to being bad.
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Here's the thing: Alcohol in itself is not horrible. If you have a little every now and then it can even be good for your health. Paul actually told Timothy to not drink so much water but to drink a little wine every now and then to help with his ailments. This same Paul though, wanted to make sure that he did not get the wrong message across. time and time again he warns about the "drinking to get drunk" thing. He said to that end, that this sort of waste is foolish. I believe that alcohol is not evil; but like everything else in the world GOD created has the potential to be used in a way that GOD did not intend. I myself will have nothing to do with it, since my life has been so negatively impacted by it. My father was in a terrible car accident that wasn't his fault. It was a drunk 18-year-old kid. As I began to grow older, he treated me quite harshly for any little thing that I did not do exactly right. While he treated my adopted siblings--fetal alcohol effects kids--who behaved far worse than I ever did better than he treated me. He left about seven years ago, since that time, I have begun to believe that whenever I did something stupid--he saw that drunk 18 year old. When my siblings acted downright evil, he saw them as being hurt by alcohol, just as he was. He related to them, and hated me. That is why I refuse to go even near the stuff.
Here's the thing: Alcohol in itself is not horrible. If you have a little every now and then it can even be good for your health. Paul actually told Timothy to not drink so much water but to drink a little wine every now and then to help with his ailments. This same Paul though, wanted to make sure that he did not get the wrong message across. time and time again he warns about the "drinking to get drunk" thing. He said to that end, that this sort of waste is foolish. I believe that alcohol is not evil; but like everything else in the world GOD created has the potential to be used in a way that GOD did not intend. I myself will have nothing to do with it, since my life has been so negatively impacted by it. My father was in a terrible car accident that wasn't his fault. It was a drunk 18-year-old kid. As I began to grow older, he treated me quite harshly for any little thing that I did not do exactly right. While he treated my adopted siblings--fetal alcohol effects kids--who behaved far worse than I ever did better than he treated me. He left about seven years ago, since that time, I have begun to believe that whenever I did something stupid--he saw that drunk 18 year old. When my siblings acted downright evil, he saw them as being hurt by alcohol, just as he was. He related to them, and hated me. That is why I refuse to go even near the stuff.
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