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Final Fantasy 6 and and 7 Connection?

 

09-18-10 03:32 PM
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FF6 and FF7 are considered to be the best games ever made. But is it possilbe that elements from FF6 were passed into FF7?.

Magicite and Materia- In FF6 Magicite is essential to using magic, as is Materia in FF7. Both of these materials give users the ability to use magic or summon monsters. Plus they both look very crystal-like.
The Empire and Shinra Corp- Both FF6 and FF7 feature A government type power as one of the major antagonist and the ones truly responsible for the events of the game. Both organizations main goal is complete control of the world, while damaging it in the process.

Kefka and Sephiroth- Both of these's guys were former soliders. Kefka was a magitek knight, while Sephiroth was a SOLIDER. Both characters were driven to insanity after experiments done on them. Kefka was an experiemental magitek knight who was hellbent on causing destruction. The same is said for Sephiroth who freakin crazy after learning how he came to be.

Cloud and Terra- Both of the main characters have a lot in common. Both Cloud and Terra start out very shy and lonely, not knowing where they belong and having no friends. But in both games, as the story progresses they start to build bonds with their allies who become their friends. Both also have connections to the villains of the game. Terra knows Kefka because she was controlled by the Empire, while Cloud knows Sephiroth because of the events in the prequals to FF7. Not to mention they have pretty power weapons. Both Terra and Cloud can use swords like Apocalypse and Ultima Weapon.

Monsters- Both FF6 and FF7 have similar monsters. In both games you fight things like the Ultima Weapon.

Weapons- Both games features similar weapons like Ultima Weapon, Apocalyspe, Excalibur, Save The Queen, Ragnarok, and Masamume. As do any other Final Fantasy game.

Other Characters- Many of the characters are similar to each other. For example Edgar is similar to Barret Wallace, Shadow is similar to Vincent, Sabin is similar to Tifa(both are monks), and Celes is kinda of similar to Zack.


Plot Elements- Both games feature a plot where the charcaters must stop the antagonist from reaking havoc upon the world. In FF6 the characters must stop the empire from receiving more power through magic, while in FF7 the characters must stop Sephiroth from using the Black Materia.

If you have any other theories please comment and reply.

FF6 and FF7 are considered to be the best games ever made. But is it possilbe that elements from FF6 were passed into FF7?.

Magicite and Materia- In FF6 Magicite is essential to using magic, as is Materia in FF7. Both of these materials give users the ability to use magic or summon monsters. Plus they both look very crystal-like.
The Empire and Shinra Corp- Both FF6 and FF7 feature A government type power as one of the major antagonist and the ones truly responsible for the events of the game. Both organizations main goal is complete control of the world, while damaging it in the process.

Kefka and Sephiroth- Both of these's guys were former soliders. Kefka was a magitek knight, while Sephiroth was a SOLIDER. Both characters were driven to insanity after experiments done on them. Kefka was an experiemental magitek knight who was hellbent on causing destruction. The same is said for Sephiroth who freakin crazy after learning how he came to be.

Cloud and Terra- Both of the main characters have a lot in common. Both Cloud and Terra start out very shy and lonely, not knowing where they belong and having no friends. But in both games, as the story progresses they start to build bonds with their allies who become their friends. Both also have connections to the villains of the game. Terra knows Kefka because she was controlled by the Empire, while Cloud knows Sephiroth because of the events in the prequals to FF7. Not to mention they have pretty power weapons. Both Terra and Cloud can use swords like Apocalypse and Ultima Weapon.

Monsters- Both FF6 and FF7 have similar monsters. In both games you fight things like the Ultima Weapon.

Weapons- Both games features similar weapons like Ultima Weapon, Apocalyspe, Excalibur, Save The Queen, Ragnarok, and Masamume. As do any other Final Fantasy game.

Other Characters- Many of the characters are similar to each other. For example Edgar is similar to Barret Wallace, Shadow is similar to Vincent, Sabin is similar to Tifa(both are monks), and Celes is kinda of similar to Zack.


Plot Elements- Both games feature a plot where the charcaters must stop the antagonist from reaking havoc upon the world. In FF6 the characters must stop the empire from receiving more power through magic, while in FF7 the characters must stop Sephiroth from using the Black Materia.

If you have any other theories please comment and reply.

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almost all final fantasys have something in common with each other.
almost all final fantasys have something in common with each other.
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While there are some similarities, I don't think they're close enough to say that FFVII's elements were borrowed from FFVI.

Don't get me wrong, I love FFVI better than FFVII. But I think you might be trying a little too hard to look for similarities between the two.

I also completely disagree with the character comparisons. Just because some have the same job class and Barret has a gun arm while Edgar has guns and tools, that doesn't mean they're similar. In fact, Edgar and Barret have completely different personalities. As are Shadow and Vincent, and Terra and Cloud's personalities, etc. Everyone of those character comparisons are completely wrong.
For example, Barret has a very demanding attitude and he's got a very intimidating appearance, but he has extreme determination to fight for Marlene. On the other hand, Edgar is a womanizer, King of Figaro, and has a knack for tools and technology, and though his ladies' man appearance can be a turnoff to some, he's actually a very caring person. The two have basically nothing in common with each other.

As for the two main protagonist and antagonist comparisons, they're a little more understandable, but their personalities are still a lot different enough to be sure that FFVII copied from FFVI.

Terra is an Esper/Human hybrid. Cloud is a "former SOLDIER". Terra was confused about what love is and about human emotion, and in the end she found out the importance of her friendships and love and stuff like that. Cloud was virtually void of human emotion and had this very apathetic attitude, but he still cared about his friends. They're completely different people.

And Kefka and Sephiroth. Sephiroth was part of an experiment to become the strongest SOLDIER. Kefka was a Magitek Knight and accidentally went insane. But, Sephiroth was more or less misguided, trying to take revenge, while Kefka was already bent on destruction and had no other motive other than just destroying everything, because he believed there was no purpose to life. Also, Sephiroth had various abilities already at his disposal, but Kefka had to continually gain power as the game progressed.

Weapons, Government, Monsters, and Plot Elements are irrelevant, since most Final Fantasy games are like that. Weapons are always frequent recurring elements in most games, the government scenario... there's a lot of different ones. Of course, that doesn't mean they're copying off of FFVI. Monsters, there's always those kinds of monsters. I mean, sure, Ultima Weapon originally came from FFVI, and the WEAPONS in FFVII were based off of that, but that's it. Plot Elements, Most games(if not ALL games) have an antagonist who is trying to wreak havoc on the world... so I don't see why you'd think that is such a significant thing.
I guess the Magicite and Materia are similar, but no, they're also very different too.

So yeah... I don't think they're the same at all.

P.S:Where the heck did you get the idea that Zack and Celes are alike?
While there are some similarities, I don't think they're close enough to say that FFVII's elements were borrowed from FFVI.

Don't get me wrong, I love FFVI better than FFVII. But I think you might be trying a little too hard to look for similarities between the two.

I also completely disagree with the character comparisons. Just because some have the same job class and Barret has a gun arm while Edgar has guns and tools, that doesn't mean they're similar. In fact, Edgar and Barret have completely different personalities. As are Shadow and Vincent, and Terra and Cloud's personalities, etc. Everyone of those character comparisons are completely wrong.
For example, Barret has a very demanding attitude and he's got a very intimidating appearance, but he has extreme determination to fight for Marlene. On the other hand, Edgar is a womanizer, King of Figaro, and has a knack for tools and technology, and though his ladies' man appearance can be a turnoff to some, he's actually a very caring person. The two have basically nothing in common with each other.

As for the two main protagonist and antagonist comparisons, they're a little more understandable, but their personalities are still a lot different enough to be sure that FFVII copied from FFVI.

Terra is an Esper/Human hybrid. Cloud is a "former SOLDIER". Terra was confused about what love is and about human emotion, and in the end she found out the importance of her friendships and love and stuff like that. Cloud was virtually void of human emotion and had this very apathetic attitude, but he still cared about his friends. They're completely different people.

And Kefka and Sephiroth. Sephiroth was part of an experiment to become the strongest SOLDIER. Kefka was a Magitek Knight and accidentally went insane. But, Sephiroth was more or less misguided, trying to take revenge, while Kefka was already bent on destruction and had no other motive other than just destroying everything, because he believed there was no purpose to life. Also, Sephiroth had various abilities already at his disposal, but Kefka had to continually gain power as the game progressed.

Weapons, Government, Monsters, and Plot Elements are irrelevant, since most Final Fantasy games are like that. Weapons are always frequent recurring elements in most games, the government scenario... there's a lot of different ones. Of course, that doesn't mean they're copying off of FFVI. Monsters, there's always those kinds of monsters. I mean, sure, Ultima Weapon originally came from FFVI, and the WEAPONS in FFVII were based off of that, but that's it. Plot Elements, Most games(if not ALL games) have an antagonist who is trying to wreak havoc on the world... so I don't see why you'd think that is such a significant thing.
I guess the Magicite and Materia are similar, but no, they're also very different too.

So yeah... I don't think they're the same at all.

P.S:Where the heck did you get the idea that Zack and Celes are alike?
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The only thing i think of is some of the music seemed to be copied from ff 6 to ff7

Like the turks music i heard in one of the conversations with the rebel guy
The only thing i think of is some of the music seemed to be copied from ff 6 to ff7

Like the turks music i heard in one of the conversations with the rebel guy
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