Guys! The United States is at war! What will become of us!? No seriously though, read the article before my post.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/07/28/north-korea-united-states-relations/87659264/


So, what I got from all of this is that the United States holds joint military excersises with South Korea that North Korea disapproves of. Unfortunately for North Korea, we don't care, and while the excercises are certainly intended to go after North Korea and quickly decapacitate their nation and military, that's only because, well honestly, who else is South Korea going to go to war with? (Or just continue a war against, really). And otherwise, we put sanctions on their leader. Big whoop, we already put some sanctions on the country itself.

But me personally? I want to say that such statements should be met my millions of soldiers and bombs, but I don't think that getting into a war with China is currently in our best interests, and they would most certainly get involved, and that would be no fun. While I am more than certain that our navy could carry the day, a war against such a large nation is not in our best interests, and would cause world wide havoc.

What do all of you guys think though? What should we do in response to North Korea's outrage?

From what I took from the article, nobody has actually declared war on any one yet ( other than what wars currently exist, of course ). From the article, it seems North Korea may or may not take action which could result in full scale war if the annual joint military operations take place between the US and South Korea as planned.

North Korea believes that the US has symbolically declared war by putting sanctions on Kim Jong Un, which were brought about because of human-rights violations in his country in political prisons and to any one who could be considered a part of political dissent. Although they claim these issues to be fabricated, I'm more inclined to believe they are true on the simple fact the country is a dictatorship.

The US has been carrying out annual joint military operations with South Korea for a while now, and seem to be aimed at invading ( or simply being prepared for war with ) North Korea. The US also plans to build a state-of-the-art missile defense system, known as the acronym THAAD, in South Korea, which not only upsets North Korea, but China as well. Depending how these actions play out seem to be what will decide one way or another if North Korea will actually go through with declaring war on the US.

The article also made it seem like this is not the first time North Korea has done some thing along these lines, talking big when the joint military operations were going to soon take place. It may not have been to this extent, but I would also be inclined to believe this is not the first time they have done this.

All I'm saying is nothing is set in stone yet.
Should we be worried? Maybe a little. But unless we can affect the situation directly, why worry about some thing that hasn't happened yet, and is entirely out of our control?

Pretty much an expected reaction from North Korea. They put their supreme leader under the sanction list and basically point towards all of the bad things the US has done in the past (not that they are much better themselves but that doesn't matter to them). Yeah this reminds me of the south china sea debacle that is still going on. America shouldn't worry too much about this as I don't think this is the first time North Korea has said they are going to war against the South/America (even though they are still technically at war as they never signed a peace treaty).


China is all honesty doesn't really care all that much about North Korea and in fact they find them rather annoying. My teacher told me it is like having one of those friends that wants to pick a fight with everyone. I heard from some documentaries that the Chinese soldiers in the border are there solely for protection of Chinese citizens in case of an attack by the south (or north) and not to go after US/South Korean soldiers. China just likes the idea of controlling a nation that is smaller than them really so they aren't much of an ally for N.Korea.


China does have a legitimate reason though for not wanting Korea re-unifying and that is they are worried about the thousands of Koreans that may end up moving to china.

Mynamescox44 : Hm. Okay then. I didn't really understand much of what was said in there, honestly, it was a bit confusing. While hopefully nothing comes of it, if North Korea were to declare war then Korea would, more than likely, quickly become the 'Balkan Powder Keg' of World War III while the Middle East would likely become another focal point in the conflict. This is because China would become involved, most likely, very quickly, and then the United States would be at war with one of the few countries to have a military that can contend with ours to some extent.

Of course this is all just theories lol. The most likely out come here is that North Korea doesn't actually do anything because they know what consequences would be.

DylanMcKaig : Sounds like they're kind of like post World War I France, when they allied themselves with a bunch of the newly created, smaller nations around Germany, only for them to be invaded one by one before France itself fell to Hitler's legions.

That makes sense though, they shouldn't want to deal with the Koreans, lol.

I would not say worried,but we need to keep an eye on him. I think he is doing it to prove he is like his father. Besides we have other wars and battlefields to worry about currently. We may not have boots on the ground there yet or we are in an advisory role in places,but all it would take is someone deciding they want to be stupid.

I'm going to take it a step further.

As far as I know, there was never an official recognition of cessation of hostilities from the Korean War in the 1950s. To put it nicely, the North Koreans never signed a peace agreement with either the South Koreans, the United States, or NATO. Technically, we're still at war from that conflict almost 70 odd years ago.

That's why the DMZ, the demilitarized zone, between North and South Korea is the most heavily defended stretch of land on earth. The North Koreans have a massive army and the U.S. back a coalition force on the other side of the Joint Security Area. When I was in the Marines, I saw it when we stopped in Daeseong-dong. They have a huge flagpole that competes against a North Korean flagpole across the border. I laughed.

The U.S. has been at war this whole time. Every now and then someone discovers a tunnel dug by sappers, or someone throws a mortar or two over the border.

I don't think anything else will really escalate. There's a state of war but the North Koreans are unwilling to attempt an overrun of the South Korea. Russia and China are both sitting right there looking potentially angry so there are no friends for Kim Jong Un the way there were for Kim Il-sung.

I'm not worried. We're fine.

Despite his having nukes, I HIGHLY doubt Un would be dumb enough to actually attack anyone with them. I think he's intelligent enough to realize that, without any exterior support unlike 60 years ago, his country will be leveled should he attack. But if he DOES attack... I guess we would have no choice but to defend ourselves. I just hope civilian casualties can be limited in some way and that the next leader will actually care for his people instead of making them starve to death.

While it is concerning. I do not think the US should be concerned. Here is why. Yes, North Korea has nukes. But unlike other nuke countries. North Korea lacks the technology to launch a missile hitting the US shores. There missiles from what we know is capable of short range. Second North Korea is pretty neutralized when you think about it. North Korea has Russia near them they have the largest nukes in the world. China also has nukes. Russia and North Korea are enemies as well and don't get along. Third, North Korea's leader is known to make statements like this to draw attention. So will anything come out of this probably not. 

Of the 13 countries with nukes: USA, Canada, Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Israel, Russia, Iran, Pakistan, India, China and North Korea. The two I think could be real trouble is Iran and Pakistan.  

Pakistan it depends on who is in power. If they have a pro Taliban leader then its highly alarming because that means nukes could fall in the hands of Al Kada. If Pakistan has an anti terror president then they are not a threat. Iran is more troubling. Iran does sponsor terrorist groups. In addition, Iran's leader has said he wants to blow Israel and America off the map. Iran's leadership could actually launch a nuke. Will they though probably not but they could. Unlike North Korea though Pakistan and Iran have better technology to launch their nukes 

Titan127 : North Korea can't be that stupid to declare war on a country with many allies, they would get attacked from multiple directions and if they even dared to use nuclear weaponry. They basically called all the attention to themselves.

North Korea is a freaking joke. I say let them declare all out war. In about an hour it'll be over with a crushing defeat on their end. Then the conflict between South Korea and China for The Great Radioactive Parking Lot will last for 16 years in numerous lengthy back and forth U.N sessions.

A user of this : ROFL, this actually made me laugh, the radioactive parking lot thing. But from what I've seen now, it's more so they claimed that we effectively declared war on them by not selling their dictator more luxury cars, and then they didn't declare war in return because we all know how that would go, and so on and so on. But I completely agree that North Korea is a joke. Pathetic. You know South Korea has massive speakers on their side of the border broadcasting propaganda to bring over the North Koreans? It's hilarious.

GlazedKitten : True, we'd wreck them. North Korea is trash, and literally. But they are pretty stupid, too, so don't give them too much credit.

Ghostbear111: Fair point, I always forget that we're actually still at war with North Korea. I did not, on the other hand, know that you were a former marine or that there were giant flagpoles. I love giant flagpoles, mostly because 'Murica. 

Any American who is genuinely afraid of North Korea needs to think.

As long as it's done Iraq style (Meaning the draft wasn't activated) and the draft isn't activated then great, otherwise it's gonna suck for those people born between 1990-1999 since some of them will be drafted (People born in 99 will be eligible for the draft in 2017 when their 18th birthday comes)