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So, I suppose I'm going to finally and officially state here about the fact that clarifies why I display as a female everywhere for some reason not everyone remembers. Well, I want to transition to female within probably 6-12 months if I can. It's been a pondering thought for the last 6 months, so I have definitely given it a lot of time to think over it, rather than it just suddenly being a recent thing I picked up, and it wasn't picked up. I really started to doubt whether I wanted to remain male anymore in January and it kind of built up, especially as I started to figure out my personality. First thing I thought I had 2 minds or something like that, then it gradually came to me, how I actually felt, so I didn't know at first. I didn't exactly have a reason other than the general 'I feel unhappy about being male' response most people give, and this is the truth. Originally I told Moroncrafter and a couple of others. Everyone I know IRL is against transgender people, apart from the people on these boards, especially this board in particular, which is really accepting of 'different' people. I mean, how is one classified as 'different', may I ask? Because they have a different sexuality? Because they run a really good board? Mental condition? Race? What!! It seems silly to even have this in this world. That's the true point of this board was also realised at that point: the board really is just another gaming site but one that isn't so idiotic towards people and are actually mature (unlike IGN). I've even spoke to quite a few transgirls through private messages on GBAtemp, notably the user hayhayhay who was really friendly and generally a good person. Oh and quite a few other users here feel the same as me. While there might be more reasons the most prominent one is that I don't feel happy as a male, but also because I feel ridiculously insecure and can't come out about anything, I tend to keep everything a secret because I feel embarrassed being male and wanting/doing something (even wanting to start watching anime is out of the question... one person does in our school and gets the complete mick taken out of him - not in our year group though). So theres a lot of things I don't want to do because the public find out too easily and I get mocked. I couldn't care less though if I was mocked for being transgender. It'd just prove to everyone how bigoted and idiotic they really are, in fact. I'd feel a lot stronger though, because being mocked for having feminine or weird interests would be eradicated. Yes, it costs quite a lot to have it done. Of course not everything needs to be done, either, straight away. Some people might dab me as Inferior or Undesirable at the start but it's my decision. I don't want to wait until I'm 18, mess something up with my income, and then lose any chance. I'd even probably want to get a proper job etc. so I could also put money into it but that's sadly not possible. Thanks and also leave a reply. (reposted from 101gamers and gbatemp there's also replies to it there, same title btw, only difference is I censored it near the end on here) Well, I want to transition to female within probably 6-12 months if I can. It's been a pondering thought for the last 6 months, so I have definitely given it a lot of time to think over it, rather than it just suddenly being a recent thing I picked up, and it wasn't picked up. I really started to doubt whether I wanted to remain male anymore in January and it kind of built up, especially as I started to figure out my personality. First thing I thought I had 2 minds or something like that, then it gradually came to me, how I actually felt, so I didn't know at first. I didn't exactly have a reason other than the general 'I feel unhappy about being male' response most people give, and this is the truth. Originally I told Moroncrafter and a couple of others. Everyone I know IRL is against transgender people, apart from the people on these boards, especially this board in particular, which is really accepting of 'different' people. I mean, how is one classified as 'different', may I ask? Because they have a different sexuality? Because they run a really good board? Mental condition? Race? What!! It seems silly to even have this in this world. That's the true point of this board was also realised at that point: the board really is just another gaming site but one that isn't so idiotic towards people and are actually mature (unlike IGN). I've even spoke to quite a few transgirls through private messages on GBAtemp, notably the user hayhayhay who was really friendly and generally a good person. Oh and quite a few other users here feel the same as me. While there might be more reasons the most prominent one is that I don't feel happy as a male, but also because I feel ridiculously insecure and can't come out about anything, I tend to keep everything a secret because I feel embarrassed being male and wanting/doing something (even wanting to start watching anime is out of the question... one person does in our school and gets the complete mick taken out of him - not in our year group though). So theres a lot of things I don't want to do because the public find out too easily and I get mocked. I couldn't care less though if I was mocked for being transgender. It'd just prove to everyone how bigoted and idiotic they really are, in fact. I'd feel a lot stronger though, because being mocked for having feminine or weird interests would be eradicated. Yes, it costs quite a lot to have it done. Of course not everything needs to be done, either, straight away. Some people might dab me as Inferior or Undesirable at the start but it's my decision. I don't want to wait until I'm 18, mess something up with my income, and then lose any chance. I'd even probably want to get a proper job etc. so I could also put money into it but that's sadly not possible. Thanks and also leave a reply. (reposted from 101gamers and gbatemp there's also replies to it there, same title btw, only difference is I censored it near the end on here) |
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Well, I can tell you my own opinion, what is "different". For me, difference is in the way you went through your life, how you developed into something as whole, physically, socially and mentally, went through these developmental milestones and formed into a woman (will just pick this part, since it's the topic). The experience makes you one imho. I can just point out some of these, which slightly vary, yet are same for pretty much all girls in general. First of all you start as a little girl and soon enough you'll realize that boys and girls aren't the same, later on you will face the judgement of other girls, for example, for being liked by boys. Later on it will grow into you going through physical changes, getting your first great experience with period (and also keep on experiencing that "amazing" part of life, which reminds you of what you were designed for and that you're a woman. You might argue on that part as "it's so irrelevant", but keep in mind, EVERY girl will have a huge mental breakdown when she will stop having them or will be diagnosed with being infertile. This is something no trans will ever actually understand, the true nature of it.). Then you will face your body changes, the way guys will look at you, AND girls too. You will have to go through developing your feminine side by fighting against social pressure, what other girls say, what guys demand and what you want. Obviously you will go through a couple of relationships, which you will look back into thinking why the heck? Without realizing these relationships were just your natural hormone play and nature calling for your mating part. Later you will become mother (not all will, and also not every girl will understand this part of her nature because of that). I went through it, I have my own experience. "Becoming a parent to understand something is stupid and isn't true. You can just be super mature and understand everything." is one of the biggest lies by people without knowledge. To be honest it sounds like something 16 years old know-it-all would say, and it actually is most of the times (add up to 10-15 years, since nowadays childhood age is kinda stretched). Later on it's going to be experiencing menopause (can't wait to meet that magical thing *cough*). In conclusion, feminine experience makes a woman an actual woman. If you have none, then how do you even know how an actual woman feels or is like? Just the same as, how can you say you love potatoes if you have never tasted them? -not to disturb or to insult anyone, just my opinion- For me, difference is in the way you went through your life, how you developed into something as whole, physically, socially and mentally, went through these developmental milestones and formed into a woman (will just pick this part, since it's the topic). The experience makes you one imho. I can just point out some of these, which slightly vary, yet are same for pretty much all girls in general. First of all you start as a little girl and soon enough you'll realize that boys and girls aren't the same, later on you will face the judgement of other girls, for example, for being liked by boys. Later on it will grow into you going through physical changes, getting your first great experience with period (and also keep on experiencing that "amazing" part of life, which reminds you of what you were designed for and that you're a woman. You might argue on that part as "it's so irrelevant", but keep in mind, EVERY girl will have a huge mental breakdown when she will stop having them or will be diagnosed with being infertile. This is something no trans will ever actually understand, the true nature of it.). Then you will face your body changes, the way guys will look at you, AND girls too. You will have to go through developing your feminine side by fighting against social pressure, what other girls say, what guys demand and what you want. Obviously you will go through a couple of relationships, which you will look back into thinking why the heck? Without realizing these relationships were just your natural hormone play and nature calling for your mating part. Later you will become mother (not all will, and also not every girl will understand this part of her nature because of that). I went through it, I have my own experience. "Becoming a parent to understand something is stupid and isn't true. You can just be super mature and understand everything." is one of the biggest lies by people without knowledge. To be honest it sounds like something 16 years old know-it-all would say, and it actually is most of the times (add up to 10-15 years, since nowadays childhood age is kinda stretched). Later on it's going to be experiencing menopause (can't wait to meet that magical thing *cough*). In conclusion, feminine experience makes a woman an actual woman. If you have none, then how do you even know how an actual woman feels or is like? Just the same as, how can you say you love potatoes if you have never tasted them? -not to disturb or to insult anyone, just my opinion- |
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kiokozei : Your post is hard to reply to but I can answer the last part: I'm on a damn lot of forums of both genders and that's where my depiction comes from... |
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No step in life is easy to take, even less when your environment is against your choice. Still, we must take the steps we believe are the right ones. While you seem pretty decided, I would say that you should still wait. The only reason is because you're in a difficult age. I had a very dark time between 12 and 17, having almost no friends and a constant desire to kill myself, all the while being unhappy with my life for being "different" than the rest: nobody else watched anime like me, nobody liked my same style of music, nobody had my same hobbies... I didn't consider changing genders, simply because it would mean no change for me. I acted like a normal boy or girl my age, just that I wasn't on board with the popular group, and because they were kind of immature at the time, I often got ridiculed. Being ridiculed by the boys and girls alike, when they felt like it, would not change whether I was a boy or a girl. You may eventually find someone who shares your interests, or someone mature enough to put aside your different hobbies to focus on what you both like. I only share the drinking parties with my real life friends, and with a few my love for cars, but we differ in absolutely everything else. Still, they think deeply of me, even if we see each other once in two-three months. Once again, I'm just throwing my two cents here. My advice is that you should wait. The last call is yours, and you will be no different to me as male or female. Keep in mind there is (or should be) no turning back when changing genders, so if you regret it you'll have several decades to repent. While you seem pretty decided, I would say that you should still wait. The only reason is because you're in a difficult age. I had a very dark time between 12 and 17, having almost no friends and a constant desire to kill myself, all the while being unhappy with my life for being "different" than the rest: nobody else watched anime like me, nobody liked my same style of music, nobody had my same hobbies... I didn't consider changing genders, simply because it would mean no change for me. I acted like a normal boy or girl my age, just that I wasn't on board with the popular group, and because they were kind of immature at the time, I often got ridiculed. Being ridiculed by the boys and girls alike, when they felt like it, would not change whether I was a boy or a girl. You may eventually find someone who shares your interests, or someone mature enough to put aside your different hobbies to focus on what you both like. I only share the drinking parties with my real life friends, and with a few my love for cars, but we differ in absolutely everything else. Still, they think deeply of me, even if we see each other once in two-three months. Once again, I'm just throwing my two cents here. My advice is that you should wait. The last call is yours, and you will be no different to me as male or female. Keep in mind there is (or should be) no turning back when changing genders, so if you regret it you'll have several decades to repent. |
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Not to put down what you've been saying, and it's very brave of you to come out about this on a public forum, but if you really want to transition, how are you going to pay for it? Changing genders doesn't come cheap. You have to pay for hormones, clothes, makeup, even surgery once you get there... All of this will cost you tens of thousands of dollars. Your profile says you're only 14 and you don't even have a job, so where will your money come from? If your parents are on board with it and they'll cover the costs then that's great, but otherwise I don't see how this will be possible in 6-12 months.
Even if you can't afford it right now, I think this is a good opportunity to really dig down and decide if this is what you want for the rest of your life. Being female doesn't just mean you get to wear skirts and makeup every day. You also have to accept the prejudice and expectations of them as well. That means you'll probably get looked down upon by some guys, people will judge you by your looks (which is not easy for someone who is trans), you'll probably get paid less when you start working, you'll have to learn all of the manners expected of a woman, you need to eat differently, you have to work on voice training to speak like a woman, and even more. And not only that, but you'll have to deal with the stigma of being trans on top of all that (like you mentioned, many people are against transgenderism). I'm not saying this is impossible-- lots of people have done it-- but this has to be something you are truly willing to embrace. And you probably can't answer this right away, probably not for a long time, until you really research and know what you're getting into. Now money aside, if you know completely the consequences of your decision and are willing to accept them 150%, then I'd be behind you all the way. This is a decision I think you should wait and think about for a while longer though, at least until you can afford it. Even if you can't afford it right now, I think this is a good opportunity to really dig down and decide if this is what you want for the rest of your life. Being female doesn't just mean you get to wear skirts and makeup every day. You also have to accept the prejudice and expectations of them as well. That means you'll probably get looked down upon by some guys, people will judge you by your looks (which is not easy for someone who is trans), you'll probably get paid less when you start working, you'll have to learn all of the manners expected of a woman, you need to eat differently, you have to work on voice training to speak like a woman, and even more. And not only that, but you'll have to deal with the stigma of being trans on top of all that (like you mentioned, many people are against transgenderism). I'm not saying this is impossible-- lots of people have done it-- but this has to be something you are truly willing to embrace. And you probably can't answer this right away, probably not for a long time, until you really research and know what you're getting into. Now money aside, if you know completely the consequences of your decision and are willing to accept them 150%, then I'd be behind you all the way. This is a decision I think you should wait and think about for a while longer though, at least until you can afford it. |
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I agree with ex palen- you should wait a bit before you decide to change. And it seems to me that you want to change because you feel that you'll be ridiculed less if you do change. Which I have some experience on... Basically when I was in elementary, I wanted to be a guy. For pretty much the same reason as you- I was into video games, but I was afraid of coming out as liking video games because I knew no other girl who liked video games. Maybe some who liked those "dress-up" games but I hated those. My favorite color was blue, not pink like every other girl I knew, and I was already as alone as I was. I just wanted to be accepted, and since I felt that my preferences were more akin to boys, I wanted to be a boy. In fact, I always have more guy friends than girl friends even now, but I guess you could have guessed that I'm happy with being a girl now. It was just something that I was going through due to barely having any friends and having no self confidence, but now that I have a decent amount of friends, and enough self confidence. Your situation seems to just be with your group. At the school I attended, liking anime was the in thing. A LOT of guys was into anime, and no one minded. I'd say to wait a few years, because it may just be a phase with you like it was for me, and idk if you can reverse the surgery. Basically when I was in elementary, I wanted to be a guy. For pretty much the same reason as you- I was into video games, but I was afraid of coming out as liking video games because I knew no other girl who liked video games. Maybe some who liked those "dress-up" games but I hated those. My favorite color was blue, not pink like every other girl I knew, and I was already as alone as I was. I just wanted to be accepted, and since I felt that my preferences were more akin to boys, I wanted to be a boy. In fact, I always have more guy friends than girl friends even now, but I guess you could have guessed that I'm happy with being a girl now. It was just something that I was going through due to barely having any friends and having no self confidence, but now that I have a decent amount of friends, and enough self confidence. Your situation seems to just be with your group. At the school I attended, liking anime was the in thing. A LOT of guys was into anime, and no one minded. I'd say to wait a few years, because it may just be a phase with you like it was for me, and idk if you can reverse the surgery. |
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If this is really what you want, then go for it. I wish you nothing but the best. That being said, there's good reason everyone is at least telling you to put off any serious (physical, hormonal, etc) changes. I know how much it sucks hearing "at your age" or "at that time in life" talking about how young you are, but there's good reason for that too. You still don't know entirely who you are and your place in this world. To be honest, no one will ever truly know everything about themselves and where they fit in, we can only do the best with what we have. At least give it some more time is all I'm trying to say. Learn more about who you are and what you want from life. Talk to as many transgender people as you can and hear their experiences, then compare that to what you hope to gain from this transition (but keep in mind every one's experience will be entirely unique. this is only to gauge certain aspects of such a huge change in life.) Basically I'm just saying there's lines you can't come back from once crossed, or at an even greater cost than what helped you cross them. Again, I wish you all the happiness in the world and hope everything works out how you want it to That being said, there's good reason everyone is at least telling you to put off any serious (physical, hormonal, etc) changes. I know how much it sucks hearing "at your age" or "at that time in life" talking about how young you are, but there's good reason for that too. You still don't know entirely who you are and your place in this world. To be honest, no one will ever truly know everything about themselves and where they fit in, we can only do the best with what we have. At least give it some more time is all I'm trying to say. Learn more about who you are and what you want from life. Talk to as many transgender people as you can and hear their experiences, then compare that to what you hope to gain from this transition (but keep in mind every one's experience will be entirely unique. this is only to gauge certain aspects of such a huge change in life.) Basically I'm just saying there's lines you can't come back from once crossed, or at an even greater cost than what helped you cross them. Again, I wish you all the happiness in the world and hope everything works out how you want it to |
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Sorry if my post comes off rude or anything like that. Ok, so I think it's cool that you were brave enough to come out like that, but I have a few things to say. I honestly thing you didn't identify the correct problem. The problem is not that you're a guy, so it's forbidden to watch anime. Your problem is that you don't have good friends who'll accept you for who you really are. Changing your gender just to feel accepted won't get anything done in my opinion. I don't hate transgender people or anything, but I think the reason for you wanting to change genders is not good enough to spend thousands of dollars on. So, if you're 14 years old, you only have 3 or 4 years of school left, I assume, so think about it, is it really worth it spending thousands of dollars just to fit in for 3 or 4 years? If I were you, I would reassess the situation, because it seems to me that the problem is not you being a guy, but you not having understanding friends. asdren : Can you not? That's totally unnecessary and contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion. I honestly thing you didn't identify the correct problem. The problem is not that you're a guy, so it's forbidden to watch anime. Your problem is that you don't have good friends who'll accept you for who you really are. Changing your gender just to feel accepted won't get anything done in my opinion. I don't hate transgender people or anything, but I think the reason for you wanting to change genders is not good enough to spend thousands of dollars on. So, if you're 14 years old, you only have 3 or 4 years of school left, I assume, so think about it, is it really worth it spending thousands of dollars just to fit in for 3 or 4 years? If I were you, I would reassess the situation, because it seems to me that the problem is not you being a guy, but you not having understanding friends. asdren : Can you not? That's totally unnecessary and contributed absolutely nothing to the discussion. |
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First off it's pretty brave of you to come out and talk about something like this even if it is over the internet so I commend you on that. As for what I have to say it's ultimately down to what you feel makes you happy. I've met transgender people in real life who truly feel happy. If you feel like you want to make the change because you identify as a female then don't let others stop you. They may not understand why you'd want to make that change but that's their problem not yours. That said if it's just because you feel excluded as things are right now and feel like people don't share your interests then you may want to give it some more thought. It might be that you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. It's a point of no return and you're still young and have much of your life ahead of you. I know a lot of other people in this thread have said similar things but it's because they want to make sure it's something that you're truly sure you want, they're not trying to be insensitive. I can only speak based on what you wrote here so I don't really know how much thought you've given it. You know yourself better than anyone else so you should know what's best for yourself. If you've considered that but still feel it's the best course of action then I can only encourage you. I'm not going to try to compare my own experiences of exclusion with yours because I don't know what your life is like or the circumstances surrounding it. Either way I also imagine it's going to be hard to make a change like this right now at least if your parents aren't on board with it. You'd have to get a sex change and a lot of other things which is going to cost a ton like you said. So you'll have to consider when is the best time to do it. In the end I wish you happiness regardless of which path you take. If you need someone to talk to though I'm not transgender, I'd be willing to lend an ear. asdren : It's your choice if you want to disagree but a comment like that seems unnecessary and it's plain rude to ask if someone is "normal". Not everyone has the same viewpoint as you and not everyone believes in the bible or god overall for that matter. If it's what a person wants and they feel it makes them happy then who are you to judge that person? Why do you have to understand something for it to be ok? You don't know what it's like to be in their shoes and it's not something that's going to affect you in any way. That said if it's just because you feel excluded as things are right now and feel like people don't share your interests then you may want to give it some more thought. It might be that you're hanging out with the wrong crowd. It's a point of no return and you're still young and have much of your life ahead of you. I know a lot of other people in this thread have said similar things but it's because they want to make sure it's something that you're truly sure you want, they're not trying to be insensitive. I can only speak based on what you wrote here so I don't really know how much thought you've given it. You know yourself better than anyone else so you should know what's best for yourself. If you've considered that but still feel it's the best course of action then I can only encourage you. I'm not going to try to compare my own experiences of exclusion with yours because I don't know what your life is like or the circumstances surrounding it. Either way I also imagine it's going to be hard to make a change like this right now at least if your parents aren't on board with it. You'd have to get a sex change and a lot of other things which is going to cost a ton like you said. So you'll have to consider when is the best time to do it. In the end I wish you happiness regardless of which path you take. If you need someone to talk to though I'm not transgender, I'd be willing to lend an ear. asdren : It's your choice if you want to disagree but a comment like that seems unnecessary and it's plain rude to ask if someone is "normal". Not everyone has the same viewpoint as you and not everyone believes in the bible or god overall for that matter. If it's what a person wants and they feel it makes them happy then who are you to judge that person? Why do you have to understand something for it to be ok? You don't know what it's like to be in their shoes and it's not something that's going to affect you in any way. |
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Basically a ditto of the other posts here. You're free to do what you want and I'm not going to tell you not to do something. Just don't do anything impulsive and make sure you do it for the right reason. I'm 20 years old, broke and living with my parents, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go get married next week so I can move out of the house. If I were you, I'd put it off for a little while and give it a whole lot more thought. |
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First off,you may want to hold off on that for a while. You can change your mind a billion times before you actually have the money to do that. And even then,it is a risky operation,it is not fool proof,and it will not change who you are. You would have to readjust to everything and truthfully,a lot of M to F crossovers are a bit on the homely side. Plus,no surgeon in their right mind would operate on a teen with a risky surgery like this. You still have growing to do and who knows,your body and mind might balance out without the need for this. Many on here made a lot of good points,such as hormone therapy,you need a whole new wardrobe,you will need to learn to be a passable F and I think one you have not thought of,what of when you need to get a job? All your life,you were male,and all your records are male. When you get this done,the you that you are right now does not exist. You will be like the person formerly known as Luigi. Your potential employer may also decide it is not worth the effort to find out what is your deal. Or if you get the job,you will face all kinds of criticisms and such. May I suggest some therapy before you embark on this quest? It would be far cheaper and healthier for you and you might come to terms with yourself. I am not saying it to be rude,but to take every option you can before you do this. It is nice that most on here are supportive of you,but you would need people in real life to be there for you. Most will not be that accepting,those you thought were your friends when you were Luigi would probably shun you as Louise. (I know,it is not your real name,just putting your user name and then a female name.) Many on here made a lot of good points,such as hormone therapy,you need a whole new wardrobe,you will need to learn to be a passable F and I think one you have not thought of,what of when you need to get a job? All your life,you were male,and all your records are male. When you get this done,the you that you are right now does not exist. You will be like the person formerly known as Luigi. Your potential employer may also decide it is not worth the effort to find out what is your deal. Or if you get the job,you will face all kinds of criticisms and such. May I suggest some therapy before you embark on this quest? It would be far cheaper and healthier for you and you might come to terms with yourself. I am not saying it to be rude,but to take every option you can before you do this. It is nice that most on here are supportive of you,but you would need people in real life to be there for you. Most will not be that accepting,those you thought were your friends when you were Luigi would probably shun you as Louise. (I know,it is not your real name,just putting your user name and then a female name.) |
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I mean, why do you have to 'come out', what's the point for you? Does it make you feel more comfortable or is it a clutch? |
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Thanks for the reaponses I feel I didn't actually explain properly everything or missed stuff out when I write long things like this I tend to skip things and then the whole post loses something. Also btw I don't know how I'll pay, also the other thing is that I just don't feel right as my assigned gender anyway not just because of my interests etc but in general as a person. Also btw I don't know how I'll pay, also the other thing is that I just don't feel right as my assigned gender anyway not just because of my interests etc but in general as a person. |
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tRIUNE : Luigi is free to correct me if I'm wrong. There are two reasons that someone comes out: as a publicity stunt, or because they don't want to pretend to be someone they're not around the people they're normally around anymore. From what I gather, it's likely more of the latter than the former, in this case. Personally, I think people focus far too much on public opinion and fitting in, but that's just a hermit's take on the subject. |
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Are you sure you want to do this? I-I mean it's perfectly fine if you want to by all means. I honestly find nothing wrong having a gender change, because it helps you come out the way you were meant to be born (well, in my opinion). If this is what you want, go for it. Good luck! |
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The surgery procedure itself only modifies the physical form and thus is not truly a "change" but more of an "alteration". You're still essentially what you were to begin with, and there is a large mass of people in the world who will not identify you as a female. Identity is the only important part of transgenderism, as it is based off of wanting to give off the illusion of what you are so you are in a more comfortable environment.
Without the backing of the people in this world, it is essentially futile to try. Moreover, the procedure would break your bank, break your body, and possibly break your mind. There is also a chance it will fail, due to the fact that the body treats it as a wound (which is essentially all it is) and will attempt to heal and you'll not be back at square one, but may pose health complications instead. If you are someone who does not like to take chances, someone who doesn't try to beat the odds, you probably don't want to consider any of it. Chances are you'll just feel more uncomfortable than you would have been before it, and I don't think anyone would want that for you. But, if you want to do it, as it has no impact on me personally, I'd say go for it. Usually no one watches your back, so you have to watch it yourself. Tend to your own needs, your own desires, because you're probably the only one reliable enough for the job. But know this: while you're taking care of your own desires, you must also take care of your own mistakes. You must reap what you sow, and what you reap might be the very poison that destroys your life. Think it over carefully. Without the backing of the people in this world, it is essentially futile to try. Moreover, the procedure would break your bank, break your body, and possibly break your mind. There is also a chance it will fail, due to the fact that the body treats it as a wound (which is essentially all it is) and will attempt to heal and you'll not be back at square one, but may pose health complications instead. If you are someone who does not like to take chances, someone who doesn't try to beat the odds, you probably don't want to consider any of it. Chances are you'll just feel more uncomfortable than you would have been before it, and I don't think anyone would want that for you. But, if you want to do it, as it has no impact on me personally, I'd say go for it. Usually no one watches your back, so you have to watch it yourself. Tend to your own needs, your own desires, because you're probably the only one reliable enough for the job. But know this: while you're taking care of your own desires, you must also take care of your own mistakes. You must reap what you sow, and what you reap might be the very poison that destroys your life. Think it over carefully. |
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You're free to live how you see fit. No one on this particular website will mind too much if you feel insecure about your gender; we all do. You can do whatever makes you happy, and I'll support you every step of the way. Don't feel too bad about how others think of you. It's okay to be different; you're just being true to yourself and your feelings. |
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All here dislike me why I said that god has created female and male....its not true ? Hey people wats is wrong with you ? I should think like you ? I cant give my opinion ? Its a mistake to believe in god ? Now I believe that the world is going back.....women will become men and men will become women. Ok let's assume that will be female, but where to establish his family? Where the child grows will ask, how do you respond? The child will be proud of her '' mother '' . Ok lets continue 3....2...1.... dislike me. |
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a lot of people seem to be encouraging of me to do it in some time hopefully I can go through it. ^^ ^^ |
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