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What Religion are you?

 
If you don't know your specific type, just pick 'Any Other' or 'Omnitheism'. These have been listed in order of popularity, with the exception of the bottom three choices.
Any Christian
 
55.6%, 35 votes
Any Hindu
 
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Any Buddhist
 
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Any Islamic
 
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Any Other
 
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Originally posted by geeogree
..... isn't that exactly the same thing?

I'm just not seeing your distinction sorry.
Well I read his post more as "this is what I think religion is" or even "from my observations, this is what I think religious people are like" rather then "you are wrong, this is what religion actually is".
But I could be completely wrong and he might be a jackass that want's to force his truth on others.
~Shrug~ C'est la vie. Please proceed.
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..... isn't that exactly the same thing?

I'm just not seeing your distinction sorry.
Well I read his post more as "this is what I think religion is" or even "from my observations, this is what I think religious people are like" rather then "you are wrong, this is what religion actually is".
But I could be completely wrong and he might be a jackass that want's to force his truth on others.
~Shrug~ C'est la vie. Please proceed.
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well, he is an athiest telling us that he thinks religion is used to control the people who follow it. It doesn't come across as his opinion and more like an insult to those of us who belong to a religion.
well, he is an athiest telling us that he thinks religion is used to control the people who follow it. It doesn't come across as his opinion and more like an insult to those of us who belong to a religion.
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Originally posted by bignatealpha
I am a strong Christian, southern Baptist to be precise. However, I believe all denominations are the same as long as one thing is the focus: Jesus' sacrifice being the only way into heaven. Oh, and one more thing. If I ever argue with anyone about religion, it's not because I want to insult other religions. I respect your beliefs, but I am not afraid to try and win you over to mine. Don't worry, though. If you don't want to become a Christian, that's your choice. I just do not believe it is the right one.


I can basically copy what you put in your post except I would replace "southern Baptist" with "non-denominational".
Originally posted by bignatealpha
I am a strong Christian, southern Baptist to be precise. However, I believe all denominations are the same as long as one thing is the focus: Jesus' sacrifice being the only way into heaven. Oh, and one more thing. If I ever argue with anyone about religion, it's not because I want to insult other religions. I respect your beliefs, but I am not afraid to try and win you over to mine. Don't worry, though. If you don't want to become a Christian, that's your choice. I just do not believe it is the right one.


I can basically copy what you put in your post except I would replace "southern Baptist" with "non-denominational".
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I'm agnostic and for those of you who don't know what that means heres the definition -

Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

The reason why I'm agnostic now (I used to be christian up untill age 15...or 16? I'm not sure anymore.) is because I got tired of what seemed to be a guessing game to me, no offense thats just the way it seems to me. It also seems like it makes sense the most too. I actually think that religion is probably one of the worst things to happen to this planet. Religion kills lol but people seem to need something to believe in so whatever
I'm agnostic and for those of you who don't know what that means heres the definition -

Agnosticism is the view that the truth value of certain claims—especially claims about the existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—is unknown or unknowable.

The reason why I'm agnostic now (I used to be christian up untill age 15...or 16? I'm not sure anymore.) is because I got tired of what seemed to be a guessing game to me, no offense thats just the way it seems to me. It also seems like it makes sense the most too. I actually think that religion is probably one of the worst things to happen to this planet. Religion kills lol but people seem to need something to believe in so whatever
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I totally disagree with your last statement.... religion does not kill.

Greed, corruption and desire for power kill. Religion is just one of the many vessels that is used to attain money and power.
I totally disagree with your last statement.... religion does not kill.

Greed, corruption and desire for power kill. Religion is just one of the many vessels that is used to attain money and power.
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Originally posted by geeogree
I totally disagree with your last statement.... religion does not kill.

Greed, corruption and desire for power kill. Religion is just one of the many vessels that is used to attain money and power.


What about suicide bombers, the crusades, witch burnings, etc? All done in the name of religion.
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I totally disagree with your last statement.... religion does not kill.

Greed, corruption and desire for power kill. Religion is just one of the many vessels that is used to attain money and power.


What about suicide bombers, the crusades, witch burnings, etc? All done in the name of religion.
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yeah.... but for what purpose?

All of those things involved control/power or money.

Sure, the suicide bomber may not get anything from doing what he does... but the people that convince him to do it usually benefit in some way.

Crusades were also about power and money.

Witch burnings were mostly just ignorance really... but again, it was about power. Create an enemy and influence the general public into following you on a witch hunt. You gained power through that.

I'm not saying bad things haven't been done in the name of religion. What I'm saying is that religion is not the root cause of these things, but simply a vehicle that has been used for other purposes. That doesn't make all religions false and all religious experience invalid.
yeah.... but for what purpose?

All of those things involved control/power or money.

Sure, the suicide bomber may not get anything from doing what he does... but the people that convince him to do it usually benefit in some way.

Crusades were also about power and money.

Witch burnings were mostly just ignorance really... but again, it was about power. Create an enemy and influence the general public into following you on a witch hunt. You gained power through that.

I'm not saying bad things haven't been done in the name of religion. What I'm saying is that religion is not the root cause of these things, but simply a vehicle that has been used for other purposes. That doesn't make all religions false and all religious experience invalid.
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I agree with what your saying about some of it but I still think that religious beliefs were the main reason for a lot of deaths over the years. On the other hand they've probably helped save lives over the years too lol so whatever I'm really not in the mood to get into this discussion much more
I agree with what your saying about some of it but I still think that religious beliefs were the main reason for a lot of deaths over the years. On the other hand they've probably helped save lives over the years too lol so whatever I'm really not in the mood to get into this discussion much more
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Originally posted by geeogree
yeah.... but for what purpose?

All of those things involved control/power or money.

Sure, the suicide bomber may not get anything from doing what he does... but the people that convince him to do it usually benefit in some way.

Crusades were also about power and money.

Witch burnings were mostly just ignorance really... but again, it was about power. Create an enemy and influence the general public into following you on a witch hunt. You gained power through that.

I'm not saying bad things haven't been done in the name of religion. What I'm saying is that religion is not the root cause of these things, but simply a vehicle that has been used for other purposes. That doesn't make all religions false and all religious experience invalid.


Well said. I would like to see someone point to me in the Holy Bible where Jesus said to kill, because from what I've read, it's the opposite.
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yeah.... but for what purpose?

All of those things involved control/power or money.

Sure, the suicide bomber may not get anything from doing what he does... but the people that convince him to do it usually benefit in some way.

Crusades were also about power and money.

Witch burnings were mostly just ignorance really... but again, it was about power. Create an enemy and influence the general public into following you on a witch hunt. You gained power through that.

I'm not saying bad things haven't been done in the name of religion. What I'm saying is that religion is not the root cause of these things, but simply a vehicle that has been used for other purposes. That doesn't make all religions false and all religious experience invalid.


Well said. I would like to see someone point to me in the Holy Bible where Jesus said to kill, because from what I've read, it's the opposite.
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no actually Jesus said to turn the other cheek rather than do something to hurt or offend someone else.

Read Matthew 5-7 and you've pretty much got what Jesus expects from Christians listed right there.
no actually Jesus said to turn the other cheek rather than do something to hurt or offend someone else.

Read Matthew 5-7 and you've pretty much got what Jesus expects from Christians listed right there.
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Originally posted by geeogree
no actually Jesus said to turn the other cheek rather than do something to hurt or offend someone else.

Read Matthew 5-7 and you've pretty much got what Jesus expects from Christians listed right there.


Exactly, you know your information well. And it is not only the Gospel of Matthew that shows this guideline. The Epistle of Paul to the Ephesians in Chapter 4 and The First Epistle of Peter in Chapter 3 also does this.
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no actually Jesus said to turn the other cheek rather than do something to hurt or offend someone else.

Read Matthew 5-7 and you've pretty much got what Jesus expects from Christians listed right there.


Exactly, you know your information well. And it is not only the Gospel of Matthew that shows this guideline. The Epistle of Paul to the Ephesians in Chapter 4 and The First Epistle of Peter in Chapter 3 also does this.
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I'm sure it does... but I find that Matt. 5-7 is the most comprehensive outline of how Christians are expected to act. But there are many other places that outline virtues and actions that Christians are expected to have and display.

I have a serious problem with the people who go to church on Sunday and then display none of the qualities that Jesus and his followers do. They have the idea that going to church is enough and everything else they do is meaningless because they are "saved". I'm sorry, but confessing to Jesus on Sunday and then going out and purposefully sinning during the week doesn't work.
I'm sure it does... but I find that Matt. 5-7 is the most comprehensive outline of how Christians are expected to act. But there are many other places that outline virtues and actions that Christians are expected to have and display.

I have a serious problem with the people who go to church on Sunday and then display none of the qualities that Jesus and his followers do. They have the idea that going to church is enough and everything else they do is meaningless because they are "saved". I'm sorry, but confessing to Jesus on Sunday and then going out and purposefully sinning during the week doesn't work.
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Originally posted by geeogree
I'm sure it does... but I find that Matt. 5-7 is the most comprehensive outline of how Christians are expected to act. But there are many other places that outline virtues and actions that Christians are expected to have and display.

I have a serious problem with the people who go to church on Sunday and then display none of the qualities that Jesus and his followers do. They have the idea that going to church is enough and everything else they do is meaningless because they are "saved". I'm sorry, but confessing to Jesus on Sunday and then going out and purposefully sinning during the week doesn't work.


This bible verse is crucial:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:26&version=NASB
Originally posted by geeogree
I'm sure it does... but I find that Matt. 5-7 is the most comprehensive outline of how Christians are expected to act. But there are many other places that outline virtues and actions that Christians are expected to have and display.

I have a serious problem with the people who go to church on Sunday and then display none of the qualities that Jesus and his followers do. They have the idea that going to church is enough and everything else they do is meaningless because they are "saved". I'm sorry, but confessing to Jesus on Sunday and then going out and purposefully sinning during the week doesn't work.


This bible verse is crucial:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202:26&version=NASB
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Pretty much. I personally find that people seem to completely ignore the book of James when talking about salvation. It's like mere belief is good enough. Well, if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.

At least, that's how I interpret most of the book of James.
Pretty much. I personally find that people seem to completely ignore the book of James when talking about salvation. It's like mere belief is good enough. Well, if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.

At least, that's how I interpret most of the book of James.
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Originally posted by geeogree
Pretty much. I personally find that people seem to completely ignore the book of James when talking about salvation. It's like mere belief is good enough. Well, if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.

At least, that's how I interpret most of the book of James.


No, I agree with you. You basically took the words out of my mouth when you said that if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.
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Pretty much. I personally find that people seem to completely ignore the book of James when talking about salvation. It's like mere belief is good enough. Well, if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.

At least, that's how I interpret most of the book of James.


No, I agree with you. You basically took the words out of my mouth when you said that if your belief isn't strong enough to create good works then your belief isn't strong enough.
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have you ever heard the phrase: "Faith is an action word."

Basically you start out with belief and if you allow that belief to grow then it should grow into faith which is the action. You believe something to be true enough that you are willing to act on that belief. Faith is doing something you believe to be true before you KNOW it's true. Thus Faith being an action word.

Eventually if your faith continues to grow then it will eventually become Charity. You will be more concerned for those around you than for yourself.


This is what religion should do for people. But many people get lose in the day to day and forget this part.
have you ever heard the phrase: "Faith is an action word."

Basically you start out with belief and if you allow that belief to grow then it should grow into faith which is the action. You believe something to be true enough that you are willing to act on that belief. Faith is doing something you believe to be true before you KNOW it's true. Thus Faith being an action word.

Eventually if your faith continues to grow then it will eventually become Charity. You will be more concerned for those around you than for yourself.


This is what religion should do for people. But many people get lose in the day to day and forget this part.
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Everything in your post, I agree with completely.
Everything in your post, I agree with completely.
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I'm a Christian all the way. I just love learning anything I can about the bible and love the stories and passages. I just wish I would've gotten into the Bible a long time ago!!
I'm a Christian all the way. I just love learning anything I can about the bible and love the stories and passages. I just wish I would've gotten into the Bible a long time ago!!
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I personally dont like any kind of mainstream religon because it makes alot of people have extreme views of the world and other people. And I also cant stand atheists who are always trying to knock people for their beliefs. Just live your life without trying to interrupt anyone elses. The way i see it, if you've only been on this earth for 20-30 yars and youve already got your mind made up on how everything works, well too me thats just crazy.
I personally dont like any kind of mainstream religon because it makes alot of people have extreme views of the world and other people. And I also cant stand atheists who are always trying to knock people for their beliefs. Just live your life without trying to interrupt anyone elses. The way i see it, if you've only been on this earth for 20-30 yars and youve already got your mind made up on how everything works, well too me thats just crazy.
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If I had to pick I'm a christin seeing as most of my belief goes into that religion, though I do have my doubts and speculations, I rest most of my faith on Christianity.... ---->
If I had to pick I'm a christin seeing as most of my belief goes into that religion, though I do have my doubts and speculations, I rest most of my faith on Christianity.... ---->
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