As I said, I just grabbed the first link that came up, and the reason I said that you have a bias is because you'd rather address the website hosting the content then the content itself and heavily implied that I don't know what I'm talking about despite providing multiple sources and quotes throughout this thread.
The fact that you'd throw out everything I've written based on ONE link to a website that you think "isn't reliable" shows it, it's nit picking over something petty, it would be the same if you provided a link to the guardian or huffington post that had actual verifiable facts (for once) and I said "everything you say is wrong because you quoted a website I dont like".

If I've misunderstood your intent I apologize, but saying someone is uneducated and provides false information based off a link to one website when all the other information has been valid speaks volumes about the intent, especially when it's conveyed in the attitude you used

xxAriaxx : I just grabbed the first link with that list I saw. The fact that you would rather argue about WHERE it came from rather then the actual CONTENTS of it proves your bias.
I could give you multiple links with the same content but the fact is it doesn't matter where what I cite comes from, if it goes against your BELIEFS you will ignore it, no matter how many FACTS are thrown at you.

Here's another, it even references Huffington post in the sources, and we all know how much feminists love that "news outlet".
https://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-governance-feminism/white-female-privilege-and-the-domination-of-men/

Maguc : There you go again with that "real feminist" rubbish again. You imply that I'm uneducated but it's plain to see that it is you that has that failing.
I can give you lists upon lists of the rights and privileges that women have that men dont in western countries if you really like.
In fact here's one now. https://mensresistance.wordpress.com/female-privilege-checklist/
Don't go telling me "females dont have more rights then males" when you have no idea about how the western world works.

And no, I'm not just looking at "third wave feminism", I've done deep examinations on feminism in general, for example I know how feminism shamed men to go to war just to be able to vote and own land while women didnt have any of those responsibilities (a practice that was only just thought to be made equal in the US last year, much to the dismay of feminists). See "The white feather movement".

If FEMinism was for both genders it would be called humanitarianism or egalitarianism, yet both terms existed before feminism and have been fighting for true equality the whole time while feminism has only fought for women. If what you said was true then there's no need for feminism as there are already groups that stand for equality.

I have yet to see a feminist (other then Christina Hoff Sommers, but she isnt actually one, she just uses the label so that more people will listen to her, they dont listen to anti feminists since we "hate women" ~rolls eyes~) fight to remove female privilege, if anything most are fighting for MORE privilege, or didn't you see the "give me free stuff!" marches/rallies that happened worldwide. Entitled much?

Also moss is right, true equal rights advocates are egalitarians, the shelter example ghostbear gave is a false equivalency as egalitarians fight for both equal rights AND equitable rights, that does not mean there wouldnt be enough shelters for those that need them as egalitarianism is about providing equality and equity.
That means providing shelters for all that need them, not providing equal numbers of shelters and having some sit empty because there's no one that needs it and having some that are over capacity because there arent enough shelters.
If anything this is what is happening with the feminist approach to the homeless, there are equal numbers of womens shelters to mens because "equality" even though over 75% of homeless are men, so homeless women essentially have palaces to stay at while homeless men are crammed into a jail setting.

Maguc : A lot of people here seem to like saying "not all feminists" and assume those of us that are opposed to feminism havent done their research.
Handy hint, we have, you can't just point to the dictionary definition (which I might add is not about equality but about womens rights and doesnt care if women have more rights then men, otherwise feminists would fight to remove rights and privileges they have that men dont. But they wont do that) and say "this is feminism, the actions of the people that make us look bad arent REAL feminists", it doesnt fly with those of us that have done extensive research into the matter and know the policies and history of feminism.

RDay13 : That's called privilege, if a woman has all the rights (or more) that men do but don't have to have any of the responsibilities the men do that's privilege and NOT equality.

TheFadedWarrior : If anyone is being paid unfairly they need to contact legal aid, there are a lot of free organisations for women and minorities (the groups that claim they are underpaid) that will take on the case and look into it.
In a lot of cases it's found that the people claiming to be being paid less are doing less work.
But you are right that there are some that are being paid less, but that doesnt mean there is a wage gap, it means that certain employers are breaking the law and arent being reported, that's a different matter altogether.

Spicy : I'm not talking about the entire middle east but you are uneducated if you think these practices are restricted to Saudi Arabia. Any country that follows Sharia law (and there are more then one of them) restricts the movements and actions of women, a key part of Islam is that women are property and have no rights.

It's cancer and has no place in the modern/western world, where women have equality and in fact privilege over men.
The middle east, you know places where they practice actual patriarchal methods and treat women like slaves/property, sure those places could maybe do with some feminism (thought egalitarianism is much preferred), but in the west it's completely unnecessary, always has been.

Edit to address specific points:
Ghostbear1111, considering that domestic abuse happens at an equal rate where men get abused just as much as women we do in fact need equal number of shelters for men. Considering a lot of homeless people are men and that a large portion of them are there because of abuse from their wives or from losing everything in a divorce (divorce courts are notoriously one sided in most cases giving the women more then she deserves and not caring if the man ends up homeless) one could argue that men need MORE shelters then women.
http://newscastmedia.com/domestic-violence.htm
http://newscastmedia.com/harvard_study.htm
http://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020

"We should all be feminists. It means men and women are equal"
Ahahahahahahaha oh dear I dont even know where to start with that one. Let's start with the basics. Even the dictionary definition states "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes". Feminism is for WOMEN only, it doesn't care about mens rights. Look at the white feather movement, feminists shamed men into going off to die in a war, where was the equality then?
If feminism was really about equality it would be working to remove a lot of rights women have in the west that men dont have, for example a woman can accuse a man of rape without repercussion if she's lying but a man can't even get a woman arrested for raping him because feminists had the legal definition of rape changed to be "penetration only".
So legally unless a woman uses a strapon on her victim she cant be charged with rape, it's only considered "sexual assault", a charge that carries a much lesser sentence then the crime of rape.
On the matter of crimes and charges, because of the Duluth model women arent charged to the full extent of the law, where a man will get decades of jail time for a crime a woman will be let off on probation.

Elara, there is no wage gap, it is illegal in western countries to pay anyone different wages if they have the same job, skill level and experience. I cite the Equal Pay Act for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Pay_Act_of_1963
If anyone is being paid less for the same work when they have the same skill, experience and training then that is illegal and they should seek legal aid.
There is however an earnings gap where a lot of women work shorter hours, do less actual work while they are at the place of business, and take time off for family, but this is a matter of choice not uneven payments.

On voting, there was no law stopping women from voting, there was a law stopping people that didnt own land from voting. This included many men as well as women. And before you say "but women couldnt own land" they could, for example see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Married_Women%27s_Property_Acts_in_the_United_States an act that was put into place a full 60 years before the Nineteenth Amendment, an act I might add that only allows women to vote without any responsibility needing to be shown, a privilege that men in the US dont even have unless they serve in the armed forces.

Pulling out the "you're a male, you dont know" card is low and uneducated, many men DO know what women go through because we work with them and listen to their issues. And then explain anti feminist women, or do they have "internalized misogyny"...

I'd go on but there's so much to go over and you are all working with incorrect figures and false history, propaganda spun by the mass media

lol so many people can't tell the difference between fiction and reality, between words and actions, between truth and the propaganda the media has spoon fed them.

Wall of text incoming, please note that this may offend some readers, but I don't care, grow up.

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On Pence. Yes, he has some extreme views but you're all forgetting (or don't understand) that the VP can't just say "put all the gays in conversion programs" and it will happen, that's not how government works. Not even the President can do that, it would need to go through the senate and face many challenges to even be considered. Plus Trump doesn't care what you identify as so long as you work hard and don't act like a whiny little tumblr troll. You're buying into the fear mongering the Clintons and the media started with these sorts of fears, stop it. Pence is there because he's good with money and Trump believes in using his assets to the fullest, but that's ALL. Trump isn't some weak willed sap that will just listen and obey whatever Pence says.

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It always makes me laugh when people say "I support Hillary because she's not Trump". Why? What has he done that's so much worse then someone that has essentially committed treason, then tried to delete the evidence (the emails) got their own soldiers killed when they could have been saved, then lied about it and called the families (Benghazi) liars about being under sniper fire, destroyed and stole items from the Whitehouse, got a child rapist off years in prison then laughed about it a year later, lied about and shamed her husbands rape accusers, but still declares to be a champion of womens rights, someone who was provoking Russia so badly it could have caused a cold war if they were elected, which China, Australia, and England would have had to get involved because they are allies to the respective sides?
Try and give a reason that DOESN'T rely on propaganda, quotes taken out of context or allegations that have a high likelihood of being false.

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Yes, Donald Trump was the best candidate from those offered taking a few things into consideration, such as the fact that in most cases it's a two party system and the majority won't vote for a third party, and the other option was Hillary.
The thing about Trump condoning torture is a matter for another thread, so all I'll say is people have become too weak and concerned with hurting peoples feelings let alone their bodies, even when they are terrorists, ESPECIALLY when they are terrorists, and when they are acting like inhuman monsters why should they be treated humanely.
As for the other things he might not know, it's called "learning", Trump will learn the things he needs to know, and quickly too as he's a successful businessman who knows how to run an office. And that's all a government really is when you boil it down, a business.

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This election had nothing to do with feminism? Really? When all the Clinton supporters were saying "if you don't vote for her you're a woman hating misogynist" and spread the usual man hating propaganda to make Trump look like a monster you're really going to try and say feminism and man hating weren't involved? I know a lot of people that voted Trump purely so that there wouldn't be a man hating feminist in power.

Only someone that believes the media (which is owned by the Clintons) would deny evidence and say "it's a conspiracy". Treason and felony are a lot worse then declaring bankruptcy, using a LEGAL loophole to avoid taxes (something that ALL the major players, including the Clintons did I might add) and a few ALLEGATIONS of sexual misconduct (which again I will add are suspect considering the timing of their appearance and the fact that several accusers are on the Clinton foundations payroll...)

I didn't say Trump hasn't lied. I said he didn't RELY on those lies to get where he is, unlike certain other people. And you have to remember that the media has twisted and distorted a lot of things he has said for their own profit. As for mudslinging, it's not mudslinging to state a preference and it's not a bad thing to be "politically incorrect", at least you know the speaker isn't pandering to you just to get you on her side, only to stab you in the back when you're no longer useful to her.

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And please people, don't bother linking me to "news" sources that are controlled by certain political parties, they are so biased and will say anything to make money, even if they are intentionally lying to do so. This has been proven time and again to be the case, so if you rely solely on what they say then no wonder you can't see the truth.

Think for yourselves dammit, I know this is a gaming site but that doesn't mean that you have to be uneducated children. The fact that I see so many people literally crying over this everywhere I look also doesn't help my opinion that they are just brats crying because they didn't get their way

EDIT: Forgot to say, y'all are scared of Pence when Hillary is the one that is bought and paid for by people that throw transgenders off roofs and behead gays, you really think that wouldn't have had some kind of consequences? lol

legacyme3 : Actually it's Pence that doesn't care for, ahem, "deviants" but he's not in charge,
Trump doesn't really care so long as you're an honest hard working citizen.
And really you'd be doing the same thing if Hillary won seeing as she's bought and paid for by
people that make a past time of throwing those that don't conform to their beliefs off buildings.
Trust me, I've dug deep, and this is one of the better outcomes you guys could have hoped for

lol, well unlike everyone here that has been drinking the kool aid and listening to the ClintonNewsNetwork
too long I can see that this is a great time for America and in fact the world.

Good job America for voting for the best candidate rather then just voting to have a female president,
it wouldn't have been something to be proud of if your first female president was a criminal.

Seriously, a lot of you need to wake up to the truth, Hillary is a criminal,
feminism isn't about equality, and men aren't demons, even if they make some crude jokes.

Stop being offended all the time and congratulate President Trump on a race well run,
and unlike his opponent he didn't have to rely on lies and mudslinging to get there

zanderlex : Have sent you the Mew code, if you have no use for it feel free to pass it on, just be aware of the expiry, and let me know if there's any other pokemon you need and I'll look into getting one for you as a bonus

danielbelitch : Got your PM, everything seems ok now. Shrug

zanderlex : You're the winner by default, I will forward you the code shortly unless you'd like me to see if
Mynamescox44 : still wants it

zanderlex : Made an account to play the online TCG, set my region to USA so that I wouldn't miss out on codes for the online TCG (as I knew from past experience with these sort of things that if I set my region to AU I wouldn't get many newsletters) signed up for newsletter and started playing online TCG.
Haven't even bothered linking my 3DS games to the account as I don't play in comps or even do multiplayer, so I think it's either you need to have the exact right settings or it randomly picks who it will send codes to.
Every TCG code it's sent me has always worked, so that's a plus that those aren't region locked, but I know from past experience that 3DS codes generally are region locked.
I'm not sure if they are still valid but I should have the legendary bird codes somewhere, I'll check for you.

danielbelitch : Feel free to send zander the mew code if he wants it and I wouldn't mind the TCG one.

Also if either of you wants the Happy Hour Meowth (so far only available to PAL region games) I can get you one as I have a spare game card that I'm able to reload as many times as needed for these sort of unlimited distributions.
More info on Happy Hour Meowth here: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Happy_Hour_Meowth_available_for_PAL_region_games

zanderlex : Done and done. If there isn't more interest generated I can extend by a day or two, I just want to give people enough time between closing the comp and the end date for the code.

Mynamescox44 : It doesn't bother me who gets the code honestly, just doing a fun giveaway for anyone that might want to enter

Edit: just in case that wasn't clear, yes you can enter on someone elses behalf to try and win them the code, so long as you're aware that the code is region locked to American consoles/games and needs to be redeemed by August 31st

I have one Mew serial code to giveaway to anyone with a NA region 3DS Pokemon game.
I received this code from the official Pokemon club newsletter, but as I'm in Australia and this code only works on American games I'm giving YOU the chance to grab this legendary Pokemon.
When you use this code in Mystery Gift a delivery girl will appear in the Pokemon Center to give you your very own Mew!

This raffle will be open for one week, till August 24th, and cost 1,000 Viz per entry. Multiple entries are allowed.
To enter, simply transfer the Viz to my account and post a number between 1 and 1,000.
On the 25th I will use a random number generator to pick a winner, with the closest number getting the prize.

Please note that the winner must have a compatible game & console, and will have until August 31st to use this code, after which it will expire.
More information about this promotion can be found here:
http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/another-mew-is-in-the-news/

Forgot Team Flare. Also makes more sense to be RAMGPFS as that's the list of all the teams by their letters and linked game release order.
I know that maybe this wasn't meant seriously, but I've seen it a fair bit since that new team was announced and it's pretty dumb in my opinion, I mean Professor Oak is too busy keeping Ash's mum "company" to be running world wide criminal syndicates anyway :p

Yep, you read that right, I was really looking forward to Pokemon Sun & Moon but the announcement of Team Skull has really put me off trying them.
Why you might ask? Well several reason which I will detail below.

One of the main issues I have is that they are real thugs in the truest sense of the word.
Where before we had villainous teams with real goals and motives (granted maybe not the best goals or motives but still) and leaders with charm and/or intellect we now have Team Skull, a group of misfits that seem to rather blame all of their problems (and they have a lot) on those around them rather then taking responsibility for their actions.
You can see this just from Guzmas intro, where it's obvious that he blames society for his failure to become a trial captain, when it's obvious that the real reason he could never become one is because he's a slacker that slept in because he was stoned or drunk.

Another thing is that I've come across the type of people that Team Skull represents in real life, and these are very bad people, they won't hesitate to assault you just for looking at them, they steal from the innocent, they are the drug dealers and pushers, the ones that make life a living hell for a lot of people and have done huge damage to myself and others important to me. To have them in what's supposed to be light hearted entertainment just makes no sense to me, I get having bad guys you can really hate, but unless you can actually kill them what's the point, I'd rather just have villains I just mildly dislike, then I wouldn't get mad when they succeed in their goals (not that this team has goals) or fail to die.

I guess I just can't understand why pokemon fans actually LIKE this team and even want to JOIN it. So what I want to know is, why do you like Team Skull? Is it just the way they dress? Maybe it's because they are different to what we've had in the past? Or do you actually admire them?

You know, on the topic of "Teams", in the games and anime all the "Teams" are bad guys, and in pokemon go you join a "Team", so it's not farfetch'd (geddit?) to say that in pokemon go you are joining the bad guys by siding with a "team".
And people question my reasons when I say if I played Go I'd go solo, well that's why, I'd rather not be on the side of evil thanks

lol yeah I know, I said as much on page one
I actually like the look of the thing at least, it is quite cute, at least it has that going for it

Vanelan : I second the motion. If this thing could take more games then yeah it would be an ok investment, even if they had of made it a small propriety slot so that you could buy game cards with 30 more games on it would have been fine, because it's obvious WHY they didn't put in internet capabilities.
Nintendo wont discuss what's in the box and flatly refused to answer whether or not it was using an emulator, so to me that makes the answer "YES", which means if it had internet capabilities people would be able to easily just put roms on it and play away.
This will be confirmed as soon as a modder gets their hands on it, I wouldn't be surprised if in the first week we have instructions on how to open it up and add more roms to it

Fyredove : I agree wholeheartedly that physical games and consoles are better, but this device isn't really a physical console, it's just a mini PC, and the games are just data.
Technically an over priced one for what it is, I mean it's not even up gradable.
Change that flaw and I'd consider buying one, especially if other games were released in packs of 10-30 games.
Otherwise I'll stick to using a reproduction NES USB controller and roms, it's really the same experience but for less money, and every penny counts (especially when here in Aus the damn thing is twice as expensive for no good reason).
Or hell I'll pull out my old NES from storage and hook it up, pew pew