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Abortion: Is it Neccessary or Not?

 

04-10-12 10:55 PM
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I THINK RATIONALLY, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO KILL A BABY. LOGICIALLY THO, ITS MORE OF A MORAL ISSUE. I THINK ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT. PPL THAT HAVE COMPLICATIONS AND CANT HAVE KIDS, NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES, SURE. IF ITS BECAUSE YOU A RENT READY TO HAVE KIDS AND YOU CANT FIND ANOTHER WAY, YA. IM A GUY SO ILL NEVER HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE PERSAY, BUT ITS YOUR BODY. PPL POISON THEMSELVES ALL THE TIME WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, TO ME PREGNANCY IS THE SAME THING. ITS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BECUSE YOU DONT WANT OT BE SAFE. I KNOW ALOT OF DUMMIES THAT GOT PREGS BECAUSE THEY WERENT SAFE AND WANTED TO DO THEIS BUT MORALES GOT IN THE WAY.
I THINK RATIONALLY, NOBODY REALLY WANTS TO KILL A BABY. LOGICIALLY THO, ITS MORE OF A MORAL ISSUE. I THINK ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS IT. PPL THAT HAVE COMPLICATIONS AND CANT HAVE KIDS, NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES, SURE. IF ITS BECAUSE YOU A RENT READY TO HAVE KIDS AND YOU CANT FIND ANOTHER WAY, YA. IM A GUY SO ILL NEVER HAVE THIS EXPERIENCE PERSAY, BUT ITS YOUR BODY. PPL POISON THEMSELVES ALL THE TIME WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, TO ME PREGNANCY IS THE SAME THING. ITS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO BECUSE YOU DONT WANT OT BE SAFE. I KNOW ALOT OF DUMMIES THAT GOT PREGS BECAUSE THEY WERENT SAFE AND WANTED TO DO THEIS BUT MORALES GOT IN THE WAY.
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04-10-12 11:06 PM
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I feel that it should be necessary to those that have been raped. I mean, when you get raped, do you want to mother the child of a rapist? I don't think so.
I feel that it should be necessary to those that have been raped. I mean, when you get raped, do you want to mother the child of a rapist? I don't think so.
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Before I state what I believe, I want to say that both sides of this debate have very valid reasons for feeling the way they do. I also want to say that nobody is PRO-abortion. Nobody likes abortion; what separates us is whether or not we believe it should be legal.

I believe abortion should be legal for one major reason- no matter if abortion is legal or not, it will still happen. If a woman feels that strongly that they want to get rid of their baby, they aren't going to be stopped by the law. It is a majorly huge decision. And if a woman chooses to abort her child, I would want her to do it in a safe, sanitary, healthy environment where she cannot be harmed or damaged. (This is the very same reason I believe in legalizing prostitution, but that is a whole other subject)

I completely understand those who disagree with abortion. I really do. To be perfectly honest, I am not sure I think it is the right thing to do either. But I still don't think my beliefs should damage the well-being of anyone. And if women are going to abort their child regardless of the law, I would rather lose one life than two.

Another thing that many pro-lifers have told me is they are afraid women will use abortion as a form of birth control. I think it is sad that they think that. I mean, someone would have to be a little sick in the head to not have second-thoughts when making the choice to abort their child. I am sure they don't go out and get pregnant on purpose just because they know they can abort their child later. Someone who feels this way probably shouldn't be allowed to have a child in the first place.

Anyways, that about sums up what I think. I could probably go on about the subject but I won't make my response any more long-winded than it already is. Bottom line, even though I kind of disagree with abortion I think it would be wrong to criminalize it.

Thank you for bringing this subject up, I think it is an important issue to discuss!
Before I state what I believe, I want to say that both sides of this debate have very valid reasons for feeling the way they do. I also want to say that nobody is PRO-abortion. Nobody likes abortion; what separates us is whether or not we believe it should be legal.

I believe abortion should be legal for one major reason- no matter if abortion is legal or not, it will still happen. If a woman feels that strongly that they want to get rid of their baby, they aren't going to be stopped by the law. It is a majorly huge decision. And if a woman chooses to abort her child, I would want her to do it in a safe, sanitary, healthy environment where she cannot be harmed or damaged. (This is the very same reason I believe in legalizing prostitution, but that is a whole other subject)

I completely understand those who disagree with abortion. I really do. To be perfectly honest, I am not sure I think it is the right thing to do either. But I still don't think my beliefs should damage the well-being of anyone. And if women are going to abort their child regardless of the law, I would rather lose one life than two.

Another thing that many pro-lifers have told me is they are afraid women will use abortion as a form of birth control. I think it is sad that they think that. I mean, someone would have to be a little sick in the head to not have second-thoughts when making the choice to abort their child. I am sure they don't go out and get pregnant on purpose just because they know they can abort their child later. Someone who feels this way probably shouldn't be allowed to have a child in the first place.

Anyways, that about sums up what I think. I could probably go on about the subject but I won't make my response any more long-winded than it already is. Bottom line, even though I kind of disagree with abortion I think it would be wrong to criminalize it.

Thank you for bringing this subject up, I think it is an important issue to discuss!
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       I agree with pacman1755.  I personally think that you shouldn't do an abortion unless it's something terrible like being a rape baby.  But otherwise give the baby you would otherwise kill to someone who wants a baby but can't have one.  A big reason for my view is because I've seen what my step-mom goes through everyday.  This is her story,  when she first got pregnant she was really excited but then one day it went terribly wrong. You see the baby started growing in her Fallopian tube and grew so big it broke it.  This also happened a the second time she got pregnant two.  Both times she was sent to the emergency hospital and the first time on a helicopter, and due to their financial situation they can't afford  I.F.V. treatment.  This has been detrimental to my step-mom and because of this they have been trying to adopt with no success. So please have the baby and give it to someone who really wants one.  You'll change their lives.
       I agree with pacman1755.  I personally think that you shouldn't do an abortion unless it's something terrible like being a rape baby.  But otherwise give the baby you would otherwise kill to someone who wants a baby but can't have one.  A big reason for my view is because I've seen what my step-mom goes through everyday.  This is her story,  when she first got pregnant she was really excited but then one day it went terribly wrong. You see the baby started growing in her Fallopian tube and grew so big it broke it.  This also happened a the second time she got pregnant two.  Both times she was sent to the emergency hospital and the first time on a helicopter, and due to their financial situation they can't afford  I.F.V. treatment.  This has been detrimental to my step-mom and because of this they have been trying to adopt with no success. So please have the baby and give it to someone who really wants one.  You'll change their lives.
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Noobolicious : why have babys for adopting, there are enough orphans to populate entire countrys, adopt them, that makes a positive difference.
Noobolicious : why have babys for adopting, there are enough orphans to populate entire countrys, adopt them, that makes a positive difference.
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  I understand why people might think of an abortion as an evil act of murder, but I think that there are many situations where getting an abortion would be beneficial to someone's quality of life.

  If someone gets raped and they end up getting pregnant, it is understandable to get an abortion, but I also think that if someone is not ready for child birth, then there is no reason that they should be forced to use their bodies to birth a child that they don't want anything to do with or/and they give it away in adoption.  I am of the firm belief that we as human beings should learn to mind our own business a little bit more and look at each situation with an open mind instead of simply throwing around what we think is right and wrong, and abortion, being the big topic that it is, looks like a good example of a place where people should just leave it up to the person who is going to get an abortion done.
  I understand why people might think of an abortion as an evil act of murder, but I think that there are many situations where getting an abortion would be beneficial to someone's quality of life.

  If someone gets raped and they end up getting pregnant, it is understandable to get an abortion, but I also think that if someone is not ready for child birth, then there is no reason that they should be forced to use their bodies to birth a child that they don't want anything to do with or/and they give it away in adoption.  I am of the firm belief that we as human beings should learn to mind our own business a little bit more and look at each situation with an open mind instead of simply throwing around what we think is right and wrong, and abortion, being the big topic that it is, looks like a good example of a place where people should just leave it up to the person who is going to get an abortion done.
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Okay, I'm 19, I'm not a mom yet, but I am planning to be sometime in the future. Truth is, abortion is killing your own unborn child. I mean, there are lots of women out there that try to conceive but have no luck, while women that can conceive successfully, decide to get rid of their own child. If they never wanted a baby in the first place, they should've thought about it, used protection, or at least kept their legs closed. But, you know what? Even if the woman aborted the baby, she is still a mother. Seriously, what fault does the baby have? It is just an innocent unborn human being. If I got pregnant without planning on becoming a parent, I don't care what situation I am in, I would do anything to keep my baby in my arms and give the baby lots of love that the baby really deserves. One other thing, there are many woman out there that say they "regret" having an abortion. Well, you know what, they should have thought about what they were doing. Poor babies, I cry every time I think about it. I even seen the horrible pictures of torn up innocent babies. It really is heartbreaking. Now, you enjoy this life? Why not let your baby enjoy it too? It doesn't matter what situation you are in, nobodies lives are perfect.
Okay, I'm 19, I'm not a mom yet, but I am planning to be sometime in the future. Truth is, abortion is killing your own unborn child. I mean, there are lots of women out there that try to conceive but have no luck, while women that can conceive successfully, decide to get rid of their own child. If they never wanted a baby in the first place, they should've thought about it, used protection, or at least kept their legs closed. But, you know what? Even if the woman aborted the baby, she is still a mother. Seriously, what fault does the baby have? It is just an innocent unborn human being. If I got pregnant without planning on becoming a parent, I don't care what situation I am in, I would do anything to keep my baby in my arms and give the baby lots of love that the baby really deserves. One other thing, there are many woman out there that say they "regret" having an abortion. Well, you know what, they should have thought about what they were doing. Poor babies, I cry every time I think about it. I even seen the horrible pictures of torn up innocent babies. It really is heartbreaking. Now, you enjoy this life? Why not let your baby enjoy it too? It doesn't matter what situation you are in, nobodies lives are perfect.
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I believe that abortion should be legal. As many have stated, legal or not, if a woman truly doesn't want a baby she may try other ways to get rid of it, if it is illegal.

My view is that, until a baby is born, it is nothing more than a group of cells. If someone does not want to have a child, then why should they be forced to? I don't believe that a baby is a person until it is born, so I don't think that a woman having an abortion is killing anyone.

Think of it this way, if you will. If abortion is illegal, and a woman is forced to have a child, then that child will grow up being resented by it's parents, which isn't fair to either party. It could cause major psychological damage to the child and make it's live miserable. I don't see how this is any better than having not existed at all.

Our planet is overpopulated as it is, and forcing women to have children they don't want will not help that. I understand that there are many people who cannot have children, and that this seems unfair to them, but there are already many, many children without homes in the world that are waiting to be adopted. If they believe it is selfish for other women to abort babies, is it not just as selfish of them to ignore the children who are slightly older and in need of loving families?
I believe that abortion should be legal. As many have stated, legal or not, if a woman truly doesn't want a baby she may try other ways to get rid of it, if it is illegal.

My view is that, until a baby is born, it is nothing more than a group of cells. If someone does not want to have a child, then why should they be forced to? I don't believe that a baby is a person until it is born, so I don't think that a woman having an abortion is killing anyone.

Think of it this way, if you will. If abortion is illegal, and a woman is forced to have a child, then that child will grow up being resented by it's parents, which isn't fair to either party. It could cause major psychological damage to the child and make it's live miserable. I don't see how this is any better than having not existed at all.

Our planet is overpopulated as it is, and forcing women to have children they don't want will not help that. I understand that there are many people who cannot have children, and that this seems unfair to them, but there are already many, many children without homes in the world that are waiting to be adopted. If they believe it is selfish for other women to abort babies, is it not just as selfish of them to ignore the children who are slightly older and in need of loving families?
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I had to write a chemistry paper on this subject in high school... Long story short I think it should be allowed in certain cases like if it would kill the mother to have the baby or if the mother was raped and can't emotionally handle the baby.. But if it is some teenage girl who wants to get an abortion because she made a stupid mistake then that shouldn't be allowed.
I had to write a chemistry paper on this subject in high school... Long story short I think it should be allowed in certain cases like if it would kill the mother to have the baby or if the mother was raped and can't emotionally handle the baby.. But if it is some teenage girl who wants to get an abortion because she made a stupid mistake then that shouldn't be allowed.
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This IS a real controversial subject. I am 20 myself, and plan to have babies some time. But, I really think that abortions shouldn't happen AT ALL. First of all, it's not the babies fault that you are pregnant. If you never wanted a baby in the first place, then the girl or woman should have at least closed her legs, or used protection. But kill a growing baby inside you, NO WAY! Even if that baby is killed, you are still a mother, like it or not.  In cases like rape, or a mother in serious cases, NO, NO, NO. If I ever happen to have a baby that is near death, I would make sure to love it until the baby passes away. I think that many of you here might say different  things about my reply here, but you gotta respect someones point of view. Now tell me, you enjoy the life you have? Why don't you let your baby enjoy his/her life, no matter the situation you are in. How would you like if your own mother aborted you? Abortion is killing an unborn HUMAN BEING. It is just cruel to see these types of things. There are many parents out there that try to conceive a baby, but can't. While there are women that decide to kill a baby. Why can't that woman just give birth to the baby, and put it to adoption to a couple that can't have a baby? And why do people say that a baby is just a group of cells? Do you see yourself as "a group of cells"? A baby is a human being with a beating heart. YOU have a beating heart. Everyone has a beating heart. Do you even know what abortionists do after they are done with the abortion? Well, from what I have learned, they SELL the baby body parts. After that I don't really know what happens. I have seen a couple of videos of abortions, and it is just the most cruelest thing I have ever seen. Just watching that baby suffer and being killed, and every single body part sucked inside a vacuum! Because that is what they use, A VACUUM. What a cruel world that we live in, seriously. By the time I have my children, I will love them no matter the situation I am. PERIOD. Enough said.
This IS a real controversial subject. I am 20 myself, and plan to have babies some time. But, I really think that abortions shouldn't happen AT ALL. First of all, it's not the babies fault that you are pregnant. If you never wanted a baby in the first place, then the girl or woman should have at least closed her legs, or used protection. But kill a growing baby inside you, NO WAY! Even if that baby is killed, you are still a mother, like it or not.  In cases like rape, or a mother in serious cases, NO, NO, NO. If I ever happen to have a baby that is near death, I would make sure to love it until the baby passes away. I think that many of you here might say different  things about my reply here, but you gotta respect someones point of view. Now tell me, you enjoy the life you have? Why don't you let your baby enjoy his/her life, no matter the situation you are in. How would you like if your own mother aborted you? Abortion is killing an unborn HUMAN BEING. It is just cruel to see these types of things. There are many parents out there that try to conceive a baby, but can't. While there are women that decide to kill a baby. Why can't that woman just give birth to the baby, and put it to adoption to a couple that can't have a baby? And why do people say that a baby is just a group of cells? Do you see yourself as "a group of cells"? A baby is a human being with a beating heart. YOU have a beating heart. Everyone has a beating heart. Do you even know what abortionists do after they are done with the abortion? Well, from what I have learned, they SELL the baby body parts. After that I don't really know what happens. I have seen a couple of videos of abortions, and it is just the most cruelest thing I have ever seen. Just watching that baby suffer and being killed, and every single body part sucked inside a vacuum! Because that is what they use, A VACUUM. What a cruel world that we live in, seriously. By the time I have my children, I will love them no matter the situation I am. PERIOD. Enough said.
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julis92 :
You are pregnant. There are complications. Theres no way this bayb is going to survive. Equally, birthing this bay will kill you too.
No to aborting?
And in rape.
Having a bay changes your life. If some person is lik, 5 years into studying there law degree, and then raped, you cant just pick up again, its not that easy.
Equally if the baby is going to have a terrible life why have it. Until the brain develops, i wouldnt say its alive. Define being alive? Equally, define what makes a human?
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You are pregnant. There are complications. Theres no way this bayb is going to survive. Equally, birthing this bay will kill you too.
No to aborting?
And in rape.
Having a bay changes your life. If some person is lik, 5 years into studying there law degree, and then raped, you cant just pick up again, its not that easy.
Equally if the baby is going to have a terrible life why have it. Until the brain develops, i wouldnt say its alive. Define being alive? Equally, define what makes a human?
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For
me
, it has to make abortion yes, is not just a woman,
besides being forced to have
sexual acts with them,
still have a baby coming from rape to me no woman had to go through it,
every
rapist before
dead, had to be
raped.
    Baby
rape is coming from a human being,
but came from a forced act, came not with love,
came with selfishness,
imprudence, hate.
  

 
PS
If one day
I could I would rape them
with a very large stick!
For
me
, it has to make abortion yes, is not just a woman,
besides being forced to have
sexual acts with them,
still have a baby coming from rape to me no woman had to go through it,
every
rapist before
dead, had to be
raped.
    Baby
rape is coming from a human being,
but came from a forced act, came not with love,
came with selfishness,
imprudence, hate.
  

 
PS
If one day
I could I would rape them
with a very large stick!
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I completely support the idea of Abortion and think it should stay legal. It's stupid that people should think they have 100% control over all actions someone should take in their lives, and it is really ridiculous that they feel the need to say one can not get rid of their unborn child, even in severe cases.

1) Rape - Obviously, this is everyone's top concern. Nobody should have to deal with this whole situation at all, and the subject has been beaten into the ground. Also, for the people saying "WELL I GUESS SHE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER LEGS CLOSED, SHE WAS DEFINITELY ASKING FOR IT!", I truly hope you people take a very large rock to the forehead. 90% of the time, it's an unsuspecting person who didn't deserve it at all. Mostly living life as a respectable person, instead of someone who wears clothes with tons of skin revealing. To say "Oh well, she deserved it" in such a case is truly the most ignorant thing you could do.

2) If the parent plain out does not want the baby at all, fine, let them get rid of it, even if there is no good reason at all. Like, if everything was done purposefully, and it still happened despite all your hopes of it not happening, then whatever, let them get rid of it. If they did have the child and kept it, then I'm 99.9% sure that the kid would live an awful and terrible life of being told how much they were hated and regretted.

3) If there are complications in which dying during child birth is possible, then you should definitely consider it, unless you're willing to take the risk. Nobody should be forced into taking a life-risking task, even if it is such a thing as child birth.

4) Lulz, it's NOT an unborn baby yet during the time you can get an abortion. Basically, it's nothing more than a parasite. It doesn't even have a brain or main bodily organs needed yet, so how can you truly consider it more than a parasite?

5) Adoption centers are basically full as it is, and the US and most other countries are all beginning to get overpopulated. If you choose having an abortion over an immediate orphanage drop-off, then you're doing a bit of a better thing, despite having to have "killed an unborn human".

6) Not everyone is going to have the same morals as you. Some people will have no problems having an abortion and being told they just killed an unborn human. They can live with being told that and have no problem. You are the one who should deal with it, not them.

7) It's just a matter of the church and religion trying to gain total control in politics again. They had their time of being in total control before, and it was called "The Dark Ages".

That's pretty much the most I have to say on the matter, really. To sum it up, I'm all up for abortion to stay and for people to get one no matter what the circumstance may be.
I completely support the idea of Abortion and think it should stay legal. It's stupid that people should think they have 100% control over all actions someone should take in their lives, and it is really ridiculous that they feel the need to say one can not get rid of their unborn child, even in severe cases.

1) Rape - Obviously, this is everyone's top concern. Nobody should have to deal with this whole situation at all, and the subject has been beaten into the ground. Also, for the people saying "WELL I GUESS SHE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER LEGS CLOSED, SHE WAS DEFINITELY ASKING FOR IT!", I truly hope you people take a very large rock to the forehead. 90% of the time, it's an unsuspecting person who didn't deserve it at all. Mostly living life as a respectable person, instead of someone who wears clothes with tons of skin revealing. To say "Oh well, she deserved it" in such a case is truly the most ignorant thing you could do.

2) If the parent plain out does not want the baby at all, fine, let them get rid of it, even if there is no good reason at all. Like, if everything was done purposefully, and it still happened despite all your hopes of it not happening, then whatever, let them get rid of it. If they did have the child and kept it, then I'm 99.9% sure that the kid would live an awful and terrible life of being told how much they were hated and regretted.

3) If there are complications in which dying during child birth is possible, then you should definitely consider it, unless you're willing to take the risk. Nobody should be forced into taking a life-risking task, even if it is such a thing as child birth.

4) Lulz, it's NOT an unborn baby yet during the time you can get an abortion. Basically, it's nothing more than a parasite. It doesn't even have a brain or main bodily organs needed yet, so how can you truly consider it more than a parasite?

5) Adoption centers are basically full as it is, and the US and most other countries are all beginning to get overpopulated. If you choose having an abortion over an immediate orphanage drop-off, then you're doing a bit of a better thing, despite having to have "killed an unborn human".

6) Not everyone is going to have the same morals as you. Some people will have no problems having an abortion and being told they just killed an unborn human. They can live with being told that and have no problem. You are the one who should deal with it, not them.

7) It's just a matter of the church and religion trying to gain total control in politics again. They had their time of being in total control before, and it was called "The Dark Ages".

That's pretty much the most I have to say on the matter, really. To sum it up, I'm all up for abortion to stay and for people to get one no matter what the circumstance may be.
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I think you should have the right to choose. For many reasons. One of which is of course rape. The baby is more likely to get neglected anyways if the rape victim has it. I just think its a persons personal choice. Forcing someone to carry a child that they don't want does more harm to the baby then terminating the pregnancy before it even grows in to a person or has a heart beat.

Earlier this year I had an ectopic pregnancy (in the fallopian tube). We were devastated but had they not removed it I would have been in a lot of pain until they fixed it and after it bursts there is a very good chance you wont make it to surgery in time.
I think you should have the right to choose. For many reasons. One of which is of course rape. The baby is more likely to get neglected anyways if the rape victim has it. I just think its a persons personal choice. Forcing someone to carry a child that they don't want does more harm to the baby then terminating the pregnancy before it even grows in to a person or has a heart beat.

Earlier this year I had an ectopic pregnancy (in the fallopian tube). We were devastated but had they not removed it I would have been in a lot of pain until they fixed it and after it bursts there is a very good chance you wont make it to surgery in time.
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I think that abortion should be legal...however the only concern for me is that the father's opinion is ignored. So I'm all for passing a law that would require both the mother and the father's approval before an abortion can take place (I'm not sure if they do this, I've never been to an abortion clinic.) If the mother wants and abortion, but the father doesn't then she can't have one (instead she can just give the child to the dad and then move on with her life). Now in cases of rape then only the mother's approval is required (of course she would have had to have reported the rape to the police and other background check stuff.)


I think that abortion should be legal...however the only concern for me is that the father's opinion is ignored. So I'm all for passing a law that would require both the mother and the father's approval before an abortion can take place (I'm not sure if they do this, I've never been to an abortion clinic.) If the mother wants and abortion, but the father doesn't then she can't have one (instead she can just give the child to the dad and then move on with her life). Now in cases of rape then only the mother's approval is required (of course she would have had to have reported the rape to the police and other background check stuff.)

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Abortion, in my opinion, is never -necessary-.  I don't agree with abortion in any case, but there are times when tough decisions must be made.  Whatever those decisions are, someone always has a choice.

The only case I can EVER remotely support an abortion is if there is a certainty that either the baby or the mother will die and the only way for the mother to live is by aborting the baby.  My husband and I disagree with this, but simply because I base my opinion (on this issue) off emotion, and he bases his off logic.  Of course, I'd hate to see a baby die just to save my life, but my husband's logic is that we could always create another baby.  There could never, however, be another me created.
Abortion, in my opinion, is never -necessary-.  I don't agree with abortion in any case, but there are times when tough decisions must be made.  Whatever those decisions are, someone always has a choice.

The only case I can EVER remotely support an abortion is if there is a certainty that either the baby or the mother will die and the only way for the mother to live is by aborting the baby.  My husband and I disagree with this, but simply because I base my opinion (on this issue) off emotion, and he bases his off logic.  Of course, I'd hate to see a baby die just to save my life, but my husband's logic is that we could always create another baby.  There could never, however, be another me created.
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Well this is just one of those tough topics we all have been probably wondering about for sometime since the issue was brought up a few years back (and by that I mean when it became a big topic issue).  No matter how you slice it, something dies at the end of it all.  The big issue it seems on this topic is more or less what this thing is.  If it is considered a human then do you consider it manslaughter or one of those types of crimes? If it is considered a thing that is not human does that then mean that women all over should have one because now its just a material possession?   whatever the case may be I think Abortion after taking a long look at the reasons it is around and both sides, I think that it is only to be used in dire situations and emergency procedures.  Despite what is said about rape, there are some mothers who do wish to keep the child, and there is always adoption for those children who are born and the mother does not wish to keep it.  I am a male so my opinion on this topic probably doesn' t amount to all that much but here's what I have come up with.   I realize that a pregnancy caused by rape could lead to a woman being emotionally scared and having to be reminded of the events that happened to her by the sick individual.  This goes for incest to, but in plenty of cases the incest was done in some "willing" sort of way; yes its a terribly wrong thing to mate with someone of your blood but in some cases the pair believe that they are more than related by blood.   Anyway I still feel that despite this emotional distress a woman can go through that there should be some alternate method to keeping the baby while producing less emotional harm to the mother.  Maybe some type of transplant of the baby during its developmental stage, something that could reduce the loss of life.   If it has to come to abortion then who am I to really argue.   I think that in a dire case where nothing else can be done in a rape case, abortion should be considered the final option.  As far as medical concerns and conditions, I would hope abortion should be legal in order to save the patients life.   It's hard to not try to save the baby but in certain situations saving the baby just means they both die, as the mother that was feeding the baby is now dead, meaning that the child would no longer be getting its nutrients and probably will die not long after the mother.   However I don't think Abortion should be legal outside of those few instances.   It is just not right to just decide to get knocked up and then throw away the baby like it was a condom wrapper.  And for those who just have sex for pleasure shouldn't be able to do the same thing either, even if they didn't plan on having one.  You have to face the consequences of your actions; if you don't protect yourself you are going to leave yourself wide open to having children, its a 50 50 shot, you other get pregnant or you don't, and if you don't want one then either don't have sex or use protection its as simple as that.   The baby can always be given up for adoption if the parents don't want one or are not ready for one.   So no Abortions are legal unless the mothers life is at risk as determined by medical personnel, or a rape case that has run out of options that cause the mother to become to unstable and that could risk to harm her health.   
Well this is just one of those tough topics we all have been probably wondering about for sometime since the issue was brought up a few years back (and by that I mean when it became a big topic issue).  No matter how you slice it, something dies at the end of it all.  The big issue it seems on this topic is more or less what this thing is.  If it is considered a human then do you consider it manslaughter or one of those types of crimes? If it is considered a thing that is not human does that then mean that women all over should have one because now its just a material possession?   whatever the case may be I think Abortion after taking a long look at the reasons it is around and both sides, I think that it is only to be used in dire situations and emergency procedures.  Despite what is said about rape, there are some mothers who do wish to keep the child, and there is always adoption for those children who are born and the mother does not wish to keep it.  I am a male so my opinion on this topic probably doesn' t amount to all that much but here's what I have come up with.   I realize that a pregnancy caused by rape could lead to a woman being emotionally scared and having to be reminded of the events that happened to her by the sick individual.  This goes for incest to, but in plenty of cases the incest was done in some "willing" sort of way; yes its a terribly wrong thing to mate with someone of your blood but in some cases the pair believe that they are more than related by blood.   Anyway I still feel that despite this emotional distress a woman can go through that there should be some alternate method to keeping the baby while producing less emotional harm to the mother.  Maybe some type of transplant of the baby during its developmental stage, something that could reduce the loss of life.   If it has to come to abortion then who am I to really argue.   I think that in a dire case where nothing else can be done in a rape case, abortion should be considered the final option.  As far as medical concerns and conditions, I would hope abortion should be legal in order to save the patients life.   It's hard to not try to save the baby but in certain situations saving the baby just means they both die, as the mother that was feeding the baby is now dead, meaning that the child would no longer be getting its nutrients and probably will die not long after the mother.   However I don't think Abortion should be legal outside of those few instances.   It is just not right to just decide to get knocked up and then throw away the baby like it was a condom wrapper.  And for those who just have sex for pleasure shouldn't be able to do the same thing either, even if they didn't plan on having one.  You have to face the consequences of your actions; if you don't protect yourself you are going to leave yourself wide open to having children, its a 50 50 shot, you other get pregnant or you don't, and if you don't want one then either don't have sex or use protection its as simple as that.   The baby can always be given up for adoption if the parents don't want one or are not ready for one.   So no Abortions are legal unless the mothers life is at risk as determined by medical personnel, or a rape case that has run out of options that cause the mother to become to unstable and that could risk to harm her health.   
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I kind of think its neccessary because say if a child is rapped and she don't want to have that mans child. That should be a good reason to get an abortion to me. Thats just my opinion.
I kind of think its neccessary because say if a child is rapped and she don't want to have that mans child. That should be a good reason to get an abortion to me. Thats just my opinion.
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im not reallly a woman so i really have no right to talk about this but i think that it is the womans choice even though i think killing a baby would be wrong it is up to the mother of the child to decide if she wants the baby or not and to see if the babies father is going to be the the babys life i dont like talking about this because of a few failed relationships that happended to me because of this but i think if she doesnt want the baby she should just give it up for adoption so atleast the baby gets to life instead of killing it because in my opinion its murder to abort a new born baby.
im not reallly a woman so i really have no right to talk about this but i think that it is the womans choice even though i think killing a baby would be wrong it is up to the mother of the child to decide if she wants the baby or not and to see if the babies father is going to be the the babys life i dont like talking about this because of a few failed relationships that happended to me because of this but i think if she doesnt want the baby she should just give it up for adoption so atleast the baby gets to life instead of killing it because in my opinion its murder to abort a new born baby.
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Singelli : With that said, does that mean you don't agree at all on how it's necessary for Rape victims to be allowed to have an abortion?

Before you answer, please keep in mind the overpopulation problem and how putting it up for the option would do a bit more harm, Nya~.
Singelli : With that said, does that mean you don't agree at all on how it's necessary for Rape victims to be allowed to have an abortion?

Before you answer, please keep in mind the overpopulation problem and how putting it up for the option would do a bit more harm, Nya~.
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