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The Nintendo Wii Scam

 
Do you think the Nintendo Wii is a rip off for its price?
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The Nintendo Wii is barely any more powerful than the Nintendo GameCube, so why the Nintendo Wii $250, even still? The system is weak and outdated and is last gen quality, and the "technology" that it has is all in the remote itself so I don't see how that affects the price of the Wii itself (not to mention it's old technology).

Sure, the Nintendo Wii has a few really good games but it probably has one of the worst library of games of any system I've ever seen. You can go to any website, the average rating of a Nintendo Wii game is way below 5 and there's really not many games that are above a 9.

And what was all that crap for the past few Christmas's of Wii shortages? I personally think that was all BS, there's no reason why Nintendo would have problems producing enough Nintendo Wii's, especially if they had all year to prepare for the Christmas season but once the Christmas season comes around, they magically run low. What really is going on is, Nintendo intentionally does it to make it seem like the Nintendo Wii is in such huge demand and when humans think something is in huge demand and is a must have item, everyone scrambles to get it because all of a sudden they think they need it. Now whether this was really the case or not, it sure seemed like it and it sure worked.

I've played 5 Nintendo Wii games that were fun and that's pretty pathetic considering I've played 20+ Wii games, the rest were just no fun at all. But I do admit that the Wii games that are fun are REALLY fun but this system just doesn't offer enough entertainment, especially not for $250 of outdated hardware.

So what do the rest of you guys think?
The Nintendo Wii is barely any more powerful than the Nintendo GameCube, so why the Nintendo Wii $250, even still? The system is weak and outdated and is last gen quality, and the "technology" that it has is all in the remote itself so I don't see how that affects the price of the Wii itself (not to mention it's old technology).

Sure, the Nintendo Wii has a few really good games but it probably has one of the worst library of games of any system I've ever seen. You can go to any website, the average rating of a Nintendo Wii game is way below 5 and there's really not many games that are above a 9.

And what was all that crap for the past few Christmas's of Wii shortages? I personally think that was all BS, there's no reason why Nintendo would have problems producing enough Nintendo Wii's, especially if they had all year to prepare for the Christmas season but once the Christmas season comes around, they magically run low. What really is going on is, Nintendo intentionally does it to make it seem like the Nintendo Wii is in such huge demand and when humans think something is in huge demand and is a must have item, everyone scrambles to get it because all of a sudden they think they need it. Now whether this was really the case or not, it sure seemed like it and it sure worked.

I've played 5 Nintendo Wii games that were fun and that's pretty pathetic considering I've played 20+ Wii games, the rest were just no fun at all. But I do admit that the Wii games that are fun are REALLY fun but this system just doesn't offer enough entertainment, especially not for $250 of outdated hardware.

So what do the rest of you guys think?
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I agree it is a waste of money, and I cant stand its controls.
Innovative my ass, if I want repetitive strain injury I'm sure I can think of a better way then flailing my arms around in an attempt to play a game.
And the selection of games is even worse in australia, a whole bunch of party crap or games that rely on side flailing about to play them.
I was already losing respect for nintendo when the gamecube came out due to the poor quality of releases of rpg's we would get as compared to the psx/ps2, but the wii is the final nail in their console coffin to me.
And what is with this virtual store rubbish, they want me to buy a rom that doesnt even run properly??
Yeah right, I'll stick with my old nes/snes carts and GYR thank you very much.
They would have to pull off some major necromancy to regain my loyalty.

I can also apply alot of the things I wrote to my feelings about the other current gen consoles, but as this is a wii thread I wont
I agree it is a waste of money, and I cant stand its controls.
Innovative my ass, if I want repetitive strain injury I'm sure I can think of a better way then flailing my arms around in an attempt to play a game.
And the selection of games is even worse in australia, a whole bunch of party crap or games that rely on side flailing about to play them.
I was already losing respect for nintendo when the gamecube came out due to the poor quality of releases of rpg's we would get as compared to the psx/ps2, but the wii is the final nail in their console coffin to me.
And what is with this virtual store rubbish, they want me to buy a rom that doesnt even run properly??
Yeah right, I'll stick with my old nes/snes carts and GYR thank you very much.
They would have to pull off some major necromancy to regain my loyalty.

I can also apply alot of the things I wrote to my feelings about the other current gen consoles, but as this is a wii thread I wont
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I'm going to compare the Nintendo Wii's price with Xbox 360 and PS3's prices to give an idea of how much of a rip off the Nintendo Wii is compared to those other 2 systems.



Xbox 360 - $200 (new)
Far More Powerful
A ton of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 34
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 57

Playstation 3 - $300 (new; recent price drop)
Far More Powerful
A lot of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 27
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 34

Nintendo Wii - $250 (new)
Not nearly as powerful
Not many features for the money
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 10
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 146



I personally don't mind some games requiring the motion, I just wouldn't like it if all games utilized it. I mean, I love playing the Wii Fit and some of the games on there are really fun but it wouldn't be a game I'd put more than an a half hour into straight.
I'm going to compare the Nintendo Wii's price with Xbox 360 and PS3's prices to give an idea of how much of a rip off the Nintendo Wii is compared to those other 2 systems.



Xbox 360 - $200 (new)
Far More Powerful
A ton of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 34
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 57

Playstation 3 - $300 (new; recent price drop)
Far More Powerful
A lot of features
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 27
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 34

Nintendo Wii - $250 (new)
Not nearly as powerful
Not many features for the money
US Standard Retail Games rated 9 or above = 10
US Standard Retail Games Rated below 5 = 146



I personally don't mind some games requiring the motion, I just wouldn't like it if all games utilized it. I mean, I love playing the Wii Fit and some of the games on there are really fun but it wouldn't be a game I'd put more than an a half hour into straight.
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I don't think the console itself costs too much.

The accessories and addons on the other hand.

Let's say you want a new controller? Well you better get a new nunchuk and wii motion plus for it.

And wii fit thingy.

Those are far overpriced, the system itself is fine.
I don't think the console itself costs too much.

The accessories and addons on the other hand.

Let's say you want a new controller? Well you better get a new nunchuk and wii motion plus for it.

And wii fit thingy.

Those are far overpriced, the system itself is fine.
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No. We have one I use it alot. From the games and channels we have my five favorite are the internet channel, Wii Play, Wii Sports, Pokemon Battle Revolution, and Pinball. The other games and channels we have are Neighorborhood Games, My Pokemon Ranch, The Mii Channel, The Nintendo Channel, Photo Channel 1.1, Forcast Channel, News Channel, The Everybody Votes Channel, and Lego Indaina Jones.
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The Australian prices on the consoles are bad.

PS3 $699.00
Slim $499.00
No price drop announced.

360
Pro $399.00
Elite $549.00

Wii
$368.00

So actually here the Wii has the least mark up I suppose.
We also pay double what the Americans do on most games, even though the exchange rate is 1 U.S. dollar = 1.19889701 AU dollar...

And yeah, to much motion stuff for RPGs and such, like David I dont mind if it's for say Wii-Fit, but for an actual game...
The Australian prices on the consoles are bad.

PS3 $699.00
Slim $499.00
No price drop announced.

360
Pro $399.00
Elite $549.00

Wii
$368.00

So actually here the Wii has the least mark up I suppose.
We also pay double what the Americans do on most games, even though the exchange rate is 1 U.S. dollar = 1.19889701 AU dollar...

And yeah, to much motion stuff for RPGs and such, like David I dont mind if it's for say Wii-Fit, but for an actual game...
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DH: How much does the Xbox 360 Arcade unit go for in Australia?
DH: How much does the Xbox 360 Arcade unit go for in Australia?
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I'm getting all my prices from EB Games Australia, so pretty much the standard prices if there are no sales.
360 Arcade is $299.00, so converted to USD its about $250.
So if you were meaning the arcade in your post then it might have the least mark up.
I'm getting all my prices from EB Games Australia, so pretty much the standard prices if there are no sales.
360 Arcade is $299.00, so converted to USD its about $250.
So if you were meaning the arcade in your post then it might have the least mark up.
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Yeah the Arcade unit is what I meant and it looks like it's cheaper than the Wii there also. Sure the Arcade unit doesn't have a hard drive but neither does the Wii. For an extra $20, you can attach a 20GB hard drive to the Xbox 360 Arcade Unit (plus the unit comes with 5 xbox live games and a memory card).
Yeah the Arcade unit is what I meant and it looks like it's cheaper than the Wii there also. Sure the Arcade unit doesn't have a hard drive but neither does the Wii. For an extra $20, you can attach a 20GB hard drive to the Xbox 360 Arcade Unit (plus the unit comes with 5 xbox live games and a memory card).
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For Games?
The Nintendo Wii could have potential, this system would be fantastic for adventure and platforming games.

But for shooters? The Wii is the type of console which iD or Valve would touch with 10 foot pole.
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The Nintendo Wii could have potential, this system would be fantastic for adventure and platforming games.

But for shooters? The Wii is the type of console which iD or Valve would touch with 10 foot pole.
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Personally I think shooters shouldnt be on consoles period, with the exception of games like Time Crisis and House of the Dead (but only using a "light gun").
So in those small exceptions the Wii is ok.
Apart from that, no, less "innovation" more old style controls.
Personally I think shooters shouldnt be on consoles period, with the exception of games like Time Crisis and House of the Dead (but only using a "light gun").
So in those small exceptions the Wii is ok.
Apart from that, no, less "innovation" more old style controls.
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It's weird because I've always liked FPS games on consoles better than on computer because I much rather play games with a controller than with a keyboard and mouse, the only exception to this is The Sims and RTS games. Half Life 2, for example, I played it for both PC and Xbox 360 and I enjoyed it a lot better on my Xbox 360, just more comfortable that way and I can enjoy it with 46 inches of LCD and surround sound
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I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system
I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system
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Yeah, its that Nintendo stopped being a company for gamers and started being a company for families.
I suppose it means they get a bigger slice of the pie, but it sort of feels like they betrayed all us old school gamers, you know?
Yeah, its that Nintendo stopped being a company for gamers and started being a company for families.
I suppose it means they get a bigger slice of the pie, but it sort of feels like they betrayed all us old school gamers, you know?
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Originally posted by Red Knucks
I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system


But after that? Honestly there are a few good games for Wiiware and then its just shovelware. Brawl is good for around two weeks, same with Super Mario Bros. The last time I enjoyed the wii was with No More Heroes.

Nintendo needs to stop with its Family Freindly Famicom Image and start looking at gaming these days.
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I think the nintendo wii is fine
its not based to be a more adult game system its a family friendy on come on look at the games super mario galaxy the wii ware series super smash brothers brawl how iis this anything but a family system


But after that? Honestly there are a few good games for Wiiware and then its just shovelware. Brawl is good for around two weeks, same with Super Mario Bros. The last time I enjoyed the wii was with No More Heroes.

Nintendo needs to stop with its Family Freindly Famicom Image and start looking at gaming these days.
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Well,the nintendo wii isn't a rip-off to me,but you gotta pay alot of money if you want to have wired internet on the wii.I used to have wireless internet on the wii,but then I lost my wireless internet.....for an unknown reason...
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No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.
No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.
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Wow, I can buy ROMS from nintendo that might not run at 100% and have a limited library?
Color me unimpressed.
Wow, I can buy ROMS from nintendo that might not run at 100% and have a limited library?
Color me unimpressed.
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Originally posted by JP1226
No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.

Like Hyren said, I can get ROMS that let you play online, a BIG mistake for the Wii. And honestly, I don't want to move around in my games because all it does is make you act like a retard in front of your TV. Plus, many games don't even function well with the wii-mote.
Originally posted by JP1226
No you can download the classic and some of the best retro titles with this system and PS3 is really pushing it. The wii also brings a whole new way of playing that involves you to actually move around instead of pushing a button.

Like Hyren said, I can get ROMS that let you play online, a BIG mistake for the Wii. And honestly, I don't want to move around in my games because all it does is make you act like a retard in front of your TV. Plus, many games don't even function well with the wii-mote.
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Yes and yes. I don't really care that the graphics aren't as good as the 360 and PS3, because graphics are a small factor of the game. It's the lack of quality games with a deep storyline and that are just fun. Most of the games are meant for casual gamers and families. A few for us that actually like games like Devil May Cry. Most of the games even have trouble with the controls. They make you feel like a spas, flailing your arms around.

As for the Virtual Console, OOOOOOOH AI GOT EMULATION! AI CULD NVR HAV EMULATION B4! Seriously, I'd much rather go to GYR and download the emulator(which, sadly, usually works better than Nintendo's emulator ) and download the ROM.

Wiiware. Most of it is trash designed to hook in the kiddies and get money. I'd rather go on Xbox LIVE or PlayStation Network and get quality games than waste money on shovelware.

There are a few golden games, such as Mario Galaxy, Zelda Twilight Princess, and Smash Bros Brawl. However, the majority of the games are trash.
Yes and yes. I don't really care that the graphics aren't as good as the 360 and PS3, because graphics are a small factor of the game. It's the lack of quality games with a deep storyline and that are just fun. Most of the games are meant for casual gamers and families. A few for us that actually like games like Devil May Cry. Most of the games even have trouble with the controls. They make you feel like a spas, flailing your arms around.

As for the Virtual Console, OOOOOOOH AI GOT EMULATION! AI CULD NVR HAV EMULATION B4! Seriously, I'd much rather go to GYR and download the emulator(which, sadly, usually works better than Nintendo's emulator ) and download the ROM.

Wiiware. Most of it is trash designed to hook in the kiddies and get money. I'd rather go on Xbox LIVE or PlayStation Network and get quality games than waste money on shovelware.

There are a few golden games, such as Mario Galaxy, Zelda Twilight Princess, and Smash Bros Brawl. However, the majority of the games are trash.
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